Dateline NBC Feature - April 4, 8pm!
The long awaited 2 hour Dateline NBC feature about Barry Beach’s plight is scheduled to air on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 8-10pm MDT!
Dateline NBC has investigated this case thouroughly and will not be revealing any evidence against Barry Beach…because there is none!
Be sure to watch this national coverage of an injustice we face within our own state.
FRIDAY, APRIL 4, 2008 - 8:00 pm MDT
Posted by in 20:29:21
Why have your prayed that BArry stay in prison??? So you wont have to sit there?? Doing something right or ;ying your butt off??
BLOODY PALM PRINT NOT SISSY ATKINSON’S EITHER-NOW WHAT?
You got that shit right. Marc R. Did a very good job. Keeping Barry Beach in prison. He is guilty as charged. For the last 20+ years i’ve prayed that they keep Barry Beach in prison. I must be doing something right. All my prayers have been answered so far.
Barry Beach Rally Itinerary
Montana Capitol Rally!!!
May 9-10, 2008
Everyone is welcome. Please come if you can!
HELENA, MT
Friday. May 9, 2008
7:00 - 8:00 p.m. - Meet at Perkins Restaurant, 1803 Cedar Street, 406-442-5757
Dinner with Richard Hepburn; Richard is Centurion Ministries’ primary investigator for the Barry Beach case.
Saturday. May 10, 2008
9:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m. - Make posters for rally; hand out flyers around town, place
flyers on cars. Location will depend on weather; call Montanans for Justice Phone 406-465-6761 for location.
12:00 – 1:30 p.m. – Sack Lunch (you bring) at Lockey Park. Take the Capital Street
Exit, when traveling west on Prospect Ave turn South (left) on Lamborn Street, travel 5 to 6 blocks you will run into Lockey Park. This park is close to the Capital Complex and is boarded by Broadway Street and Lockey Ave and Lamborn Street.
1:30 - 2:00 p.m. – Assemble on the front steps of the Montana State Capitol building.
2:00 - 3:00 p.m. - Justice for Barry Beach” rally.
Pre opening–warm up the crowd with some songs
2pm Opening Comments Ziggy Ziegler Former Yellowstone County Commissioner.
2:05 Invocation Father Porter MSP chaplain.
2:07 Review of the Case Doug Lowney Treasurer for Montanans for Justice.
2:14 Centurion Ministries Richard Hepburn, Centurion Ministries’ primary investigator.
2:24 Montana Senator Dan Weinberg from Whitefish.
2:34 Who is Barry Beach Barry’s mom Bobby Clincher.
and sister Barbra Barbara Salinda.
2:44 Call to Action Bob Kolar, Spokesman Montanans for Justice.
2:55 Closing prayer Father Porter MSP chaplain.
2:57 Closing Comments Ziggy Ziegler Former Yellowstone County Commissioner.
3:00 p.m. -? - Discussion on Barry Beach’s Case (Open to the Public) and Dinner/Lunch at Jorgenson’s Restaurant, Back Room 1720 11th Ave (Close to Capital).
Thank you for coming.
OK..Am I missing something? If Maude claims she “just kicked” Kim that night, but she didn’t do the actual killing, doesn’t that put her at the murder scene???? If so, how can the finger be pointed at Barry?
#193 - That’s because Joanne is dumb. She takes her marching orders from Sissy because she thinks Sissy will keep her safe. The hounds are closing in on you Joanne. Wise up girl. No need to be Sissy’s bitch anymore. She has already ruined your life. As soon as they catch you, it’s going to be hell on earth. Tell about Sissy and maybe they will let you go free.
If I was Eddie I’d be knocking on an FBI door telling them everything. Sissy Atkinson has proved over and over again that she can get away with everything. Couldn’t you just see her going to and putting all the blame on Eddie, Maude and Joanne. Those women will stop at nothing and I think now that they know that this case is not going away and that it’s here to stay, the pressure, the publicity, etc will get to one of them, and Eddie will be the one they set up to take the blame. Eddie you need to come clean!
I would think that Joanne Jackson would come forward because sooner or later one of them will break and one of those women will talk and their going to protect themselves and try to hang it all on the others. You’d think that Joanne would try to protect herself first as well. Instead of always taking orders from Sissy. One of them is going to get a much lighter sentence if any at all if they just cooperate. This isn’t going to go away, they will never be free of it. I don’t know how a woman could live knowing what she did, knowing the whole town knows, knowing that they were an embarassment on national television, knowing an innocent man sits in prison, knowing that she’s going to hell for this.
On the homepage of the web site (right above “Blog for Justice”) is “Case Details”. Be sure you check out the items on the right side under the heading “Click Below to be your own investigator”
If you have problems finding this blog again that you are still having problems.
Can someone direct me to Case Details? Thanks
Montanans For Justice does not condone or endorse any attacks on the Nees family or the people of Poplar, MT. Our goal is the freedom of Barry Beach. We will attempt to censor comments that are blatantly offensive to readers concerning either of those parties, although we are not in the practice of inhibiting free speech. We ask everyone involved to focus your comments on how we achieve freedom for Barry. Thank you for your understanding. MFJ
GET YOUR T-SHIRTS AND COPIES OF THE COMMERCIAL FREE DATELINE NBC SPECIAL “THE KILLING AT POPLAR RIVER” DVD ON THE WEBSITE UNDER “LATEST NEWS”.
Montanans for Justice, what is the agenda for the rally? Is there an event going on at the Capital on that day? Do we need to bring our own posters, please advise and update.
Montana Capital Rally!!!
May 10, 2008 2pm
Capital Steps, Helena, MT
Everyone is welcome. Come if you can!
Yeah, I could see the resemblance between Marc Racicot and Sissy Adkinson on the Dateline Show. They both look like they have been doing too much meth.
THE ONLY WAY THIS IS GOING TO COME TO AN END IS IF WE CAN GET MARK (RACICOT)OUT OF THE PICTURE. TO MANY PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF HIM.
I just thought of something. Maybe Racicot, Atkinson and Grayhawk are all related. What a family reunion that would be.
joann doesnt have a heart, she is as vicious and evil as the others and just as happy as them to have an innocent man sit in prison for her. you would think caryring the burden of killing some one cause one of them to break after 20plus years but none of them have broken. Heartless and with out a conscience.
MUST READ!!!!
GO IN AND GOOGLE “MARK RACICOT CORRUPTION” UP POPS 12,000 HITS
YOU CAN’T TELL ME THIS ISN’T ANOTHER ONE OF RACICOTS CORRUPTION
PLEASE PLEASE FOLKS - IF YOU TRULY WANT TO HELP BARRY - WRITE TO THE FBI AND ASK THEM TO INVESTIGATE RACICOT.
HE’S BEEN INVOLVED IN DRUG TRAFFICATING IN FROM CANADA TO MONTANA. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED. HE’S MAKING $$$ OFF OF THE RAILROAD ANOTHER CORRUPTION, HE IS A DIRTY POLITICIAN - WE CANT STAND FOR THIS
THE ONLY WAY THIS IS GOING TO COME TO AN END IS IF WE CAN GET MARK OUT OF THE PICTURE. TO MANY PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF HIM
BARRY’S LIFE DEPENDS ON THIS FOLKS.
ACT NOW…..
You know I have to say something in regards to Joann. She seemed to have it somewhat together. At least she didn’t look all messed up like Sissy did. If Joann came forward, her attorney certainly could ask for a lighter sentence or maybe none at all depending on what her part was in it. But for now she will carry that with her and it has to eat at her every single day. Kim will hang over the shoulders of all who committed and all who have covered this up the rest of thier ever breathing days.
If anyone knows Joann or can talk to her - urge her to do the right thing. She can call the FBI and talk to them. Go to http://www.fbi.gov It gives all the phone numbers, ect.
Just maybe Joann has a heart and will come clean. I just hope she does it before those other two scum bags do because they might team up against her and bring her down with them.
‘wow’I have been following this case for some time. No The accused girls have not always lived in Poplar. I know Joann lived in Missoula for several years and low and behold as soon as she was questioned AGAIN she and her family packed up moved back to Poplar, I always thought that was interesting! the more I investigated,I think the plan was that if they stick close together no one will talk. Joann Jackson,Todd what ever it is? PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH! YOU KNOW AND YOU ARE SMARTER THEN THAT! It is only a matter of time before someone gets to Maud or one of the others and I PROMISE YOU SHE/THEY WILL POINT THE FINGER AT YOU.
SAVE YOUR SELF NOW!!!! You really are better then Maud, Sissy, etc….Sisterhood has nothng to do with anything at this point. The truth will come out!!!!
IS THERE ANYWAY THAT DATELINE CAN AIR THIS AGAIN????
It certainly has brought a lot of attention to the case, but there are many folks who did not see it. These folks are now hearing about it and would like to see it themsevles.
If there is a way to get Dateline to air it one more time that would be great.
Maybe we can all contact Dateline and ask… can’t hurt!
I have posted another entry on the case, which deals with why the transcript of the tape possiblt should have been inadmissible at Beach’s trial
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/evidenceprof/2008/04/previously-i-bl.html
I am wondering where the records clerk is that supposedly erased the taped confession. I would like to talk to that person to find out what the actual protocol is on tapes of confessions for out of state cases. I think Jay Via is full of it personally…. OH but wasn’t that convenient that he made a transcript? Ugh I can’t think about this anymore.
So, Maude is married to Dana Kirn. Maude confessed to Dana that she helped kill Kim Nees. Maude and Dana begin a bitter divorce. Dana plans to use his knowledge of the murder as leverage against Maude. Maude has her boyfreind, Tracy, kill Dana. Tracy is doing time for murder. Maude has since moved on to a new boyfreind……..Has any one tried to talk to Tracy?
Pam Nees Johnson does not live in Poplar, Barry’s mom does not live in Poplar, Sissy is in Poplar, Joanne is in Poplar, Maude lives in Colorado.. Denver on mexico St.. with a mexican dude.. she kicked tracy to the curb and hooked up with some one new..
IDEA: Dateline set the stage for the American public to HEAR and SEE some of the case. But there are to many questions that the folks around the country wanting answers for . I think they should get 20/20 to do a follow up now. More coverage! More intense interviews. I’d like to see them interview the following:
Ask Steve Greyhawk just what he was up to and the same with Sissy’s brother
Ask Governor Schweitzer why he hasn’t stepped in and taken care of this matter and what he intends to do?
Ask Marc Racicot WHY he would mislead a jury the way he did?
Maybe even interview Clinton and Obama and ask them just what they intend to do if anything if they are elected? We know that McCain won’t do anything - for the love of God he’s a Republican and so was Marc Racicot and Marc was very close with Bush and so we know why Bush hasn’t’ stepped in.
Interview the FBI who apparently were involved?
We need more coverage on this case - more national coverage.
It’s an election year and would be a GREAT time to put some of the politicians in the “hot seat” and ask questions!
Nobody does it better than Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer!
If they can keep the media going - and get more people to watch something like 20/20, it would spark more interest.
I think we should all write to 20/20 and ask for a follow up to the Dateline investigation!!!!
Does Pam Nees still live in Poplar?
Does Barry’s mom still live there?
Is Maude still in Denver hiding out in a pysch ward?
Where is Steve Greyhawk?
Is he still involved in the law enforcement?
Where is Sissy’s brothers?
Is Sissy Atkinson still in Poplar? if so how in the WORLD can she still live there and show her face around?
Where are some of these other girls?
This is a bunch of political bulls#@t, after watching the show it’s obvious that there more to the story. Where did the evidence go? Sheriff. Why not give the little crackhead some good dope and listen to her carefully. I hope that justice will prevail and the D.A. and the Sheriff and all else involved gets what is coming to them. What about any reasonable doubt? and life without parole. I hope that there is one honest federal investigator out there looking into this, cause there is sure some dishonest public figures in Montana. The Jury of peers? How can these people sleep at night? Does anyone remember the OJ trial- NOT GUILTY. Anyway God has a plan for all of us so sleep tight.
Nobody will come forward
WE NEED TO GET AS MANY OF YOU, AS WE CAN
TO A RALLY FOR BARRY BEACH IN
WEST YELLOWSTONE MONTANA.
THIS IS NOT AN EVENT SPONSORED BY MONTANA’S FOR JUSTICE,
BUT I HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF THEIR MEMBERS,
AND SOME OF THEM ARE PLANNING ON GOING.
THEY SEEM BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
SO HERE’S THE SCOOP.
Barry Beach Rally Itinerary
West Yellowstone, MT
Thursday. April 17, 2008
8:30 - 9:00 a.m. - Meet at Sydney’s Mountain Bistro, 38 Canyon Street, 406-646-7660
9:00 a.m. - Noon - Hand out flyers around town and convention, place flyers on cars,
make posters for rally
Noon - 2:00 p.m. - Rally together outside Union Pacific Dining Hall
2:00 - 3:30 p.m. - Late Lunch at Sydney’s Mountain Bistro
3:30 - 6:00 p.m. - Free Time, finish posters
6:00 p.m. - ? - Discussion on Barry Beach’s Case (Open to the Public) and Dinner at
Sydney’s Mountain Bistro
9:30 - 11:30 p.m. - Open Mic Night
Location: Canyon/Dunraven Rooms next to Iron Horse Saloon, Holiday Inn Sunspree
Resort, 315 Yellowstone Ave.
Friday, April 18.2008
8:30 - 9:00 a.m. - Meet at Sydney’s Mountain Bistro
9:00 a.m. - Noon - Hand out flyers around town and convention, place flyers on cars
Noon - 2:00 p.m. - Rally together outside Union Pacific Dining Hall
2:00 - 3:30 p.m. - Late Lunch at Sydney’s Mountain Bistro, discuss nights events
3:30 - 6:00 p.m. - Free Time, get ready for rally
6:00 p.m. - Midnight - Rally outside Union Pacific Hall, candle light vigil for Barry
Beach after dark (Take turns going to dinner at Sydney’s Mountain Bistro)
West Yellowstone Contact Information: Barrie Boulds 406-640-2893 or
bboulds@yahoo.com
Hotel Reservations: Stagecoach Inn 406-646-7381, Ho-Hum Motel 406-646-7746,
Brandin’ Iron Inn 800-217-4613
For those of you who would like to help from a distance, don’t forget to donate to this group. I have. They are doing all they can to free Barry Beach and need financial assistance to continue their work.
Please read this on Racicot: http://www.constitution.org/mil/mt/racic3.htm
Please sign this petition! It will be circulated to the appropriate Montana state and other federal officials:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/freebarrybeach/index.html
IF all she did was kick her in the head- then WHY 25 years of cover-up. Has she ever gone forward and made a statement that she WAS there?
Why didn’t Maude show up at the hearing? Why didn’t Maude speak to Dateline herself?
If all she did was kick her in the head - then why doesn’t Maude do the right thing NOW - call Dateline - give a statement - better yet get an attorney (not from Poplar either!) and sure has heck don’t go to daddy for help! He wants to save face too!
Why not be the first of that group to give a TRUE confession and statement - get a lesser sentence - do the plea bargaining - then nail those other girls. Before they nail her! Because that’s JUST what is gonna happen.
Someone is going to want the honor of being the first to come forward - think they care about Maude? Seems the whole town knows Sissy did it - seems the whole town believes Maude did it too. So a few simple kicks to the head - that’s just a beating and not a murder - so if your a friend of hers - I’d HIGHLY recommend she comes forward before someone else beats her to it! Those other girls are trash - thier slime and slime only runs one way…..down hill! If Maude ONLY kicked her in the head - don’t let those slimeballs taker her down - get her to come forward first.
This is coming from someone who has never been to Poplar - I had to look it up on a map the other day. From someone who didn’t know a thing about this murder until Dateline aired it.
But this isn’t over - it’s never gonna go away. In fact its only going to get bigger and bigger with more and more plublicity. I’d want it over and to quit hearing my name dragged thru the mud.
I had a friend once who went thru divorces. The first one she was taken to the cleaners, but he was the one who filed the divorce. The second time she got smart, she filed first It’s always more fun to win than to lose. The girl that comes forward fist will win, the others will lose.
I’ve never even heard of this case before Dateline aired it, but I know from past experience that it’s best for Maude to come forward before someone else does. Maybe even her father. I heard he is trying to be a preacher. There are good preachers and bad ones. Just like good cops and bad cops. Well he’s proved he was a bad cop, but just maybe he’ll decide to be a good preacher and confess to his daughters involvement. I wouldnt’ trust him either! I’d beat daddy to the pulpit and come clean!
Well thank you for sharing that with everyone because I’m not real up on my politics but since I started writing letters in Barry’s defense I have learned alot already. This however I did not know and so thank you because I will NOT be voting for him!!! And I’ll spread the word as well!
Well thank you for sharing that with everyone because I’m not real up on my politics but since I started writing letters in Barry’s defense I have learned alot already. This however I did not know and so thank you because I will NOT be voting for him!!! And I’ll spread the word as well!
Please sign this petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/freebarrybeach/index.html
We want to put pressure on the guilty parties as much as possible.
Well, what is very revealing as to the fact that they are covering things up is that they believe that they are correct beyond the shadow of a doubt. I noticed that when they are asked if there has been any doubt about the conviction that has crossed their mind they don’t answer the question. The guy that claimed Barry Beach was “speaking from his heart” when he made the “confession” revealed himself right there. Why can’t he see this today in Barry Beach when it is so very obvious to everyone else?
The Montana Municipalities Insurance Company told a town in Montana that if their Chief of Police messed up again, they (the insurance company) would no longer insure the town. The Chief of Police was suspected of being incompent in his duties a couple years later. Did the town fire him? No, he was moved to the Sheriff’s office as Deputy County Sheriff. More power, larger area, more problems.
This is a small example of how “the good ole boy system” works.
i agree that the case needs to be taken out of state to be heard FAIRLY.the MT courts are never going to admit that they messed up. yeah there were tribal cops there and they STILL to this day dont do sh*t on the rez. all the cops in poplar arent worth sh*t. all they like to do is drink and try to sleep with all the under-age girls.
in response to the comment #152..F*ck You…maude is no good. everyone in poplar knows shes a piece of sh*t…how many deaths is maude responsible for?? i heard its around 4 or 5, who knows maybe even more..so shut your mouth when you talk about people need to leave her alone, shes caused enough damage to many families in poplar.
I don’t blame you. The rez in MT are still as lawless as Racicot left them. Anything goes. And when a prosecutor has more confidence than intellect they help keep the tribal police wallowing in incompetence if not outright illegality. It’s sad but a police officer on a Montana Reservation is not automatically one of the good guys.
Tribal police? That explains a lot. They do whatever they want and will definitely cover for each other. Did this happen on a reservation? If so, no wonder. I live in california and I drive to new mexico across a reservation and I am PETRIFIED when I drive across there solely because of the tribal police.
#139, because it would expose EVERYTHING.
This needs to be tried in another state. Get it out of Montana.
“Kicked her a little”???? This statement is the product of a deranged mind. SHE KICKED HER IN THE HEAD! SHE SAW THE PERSON THAT DID IT! May she rot in hell.
Maude Grayhawk said that she lured her and kicked her in the head three times! HELLO? How completely and utterly STUPID can people be???
why should maude be left alone?? she was there and she must tell!! are you as dumb as you sound?? And if she isnt a murderer than why is she hiding? why try to have herself committed?? why didnt she go to the hearing and testify? dont tell me she is scared of sissy and the others, maude is bold and mouthy. she used to call dana and order him to cook her breakfast and bring it to her at work. cussing at him loud enough for others to hear. no, she isnt a timid innocent bystander, she is as guilty as the rest of them. an obnoxious trouble making woman and she really isnt a gray hawk either.
WHAT? If you know something and Maude said something to you, you need to tell Barry’s lawyers!!! If Maude said this, she was there and needs to come forward with this information. Maude is a witness to murder! I would suggest telling Maude to tell all before Sissy and the rest involved point the finger to her.
People pleze leave Maude alone. I know for a fact she is NOT guilty of murder. She said she only kicked her a little bit and I believe her. The ones that killed her are known. Go after them not Maude
my problem is that my moms sister can’t say no names don’t want my mom dead by those physycotic BIT%^$S nowww told officer carpentier that mike longtree her buddie told that he didn’t do anything but he was there and saw sissy,joanne, and maude do all this . and the secret is now spreading and NOW everybodys on his side now after all this .and i don’t get it the word heaven came out of sissy’s mouth!and that is true kim is always lookin over sissy’s shoulder.
my problem is that my moms sister can’t say no names don’t want my mom dead by those physycotic BIT%^$S nowww told officer carpentier that mike longtree her buddie told that he didn’t do anything but he was there and saw sissy,joanne, and maude do all this . and the secret is now spreading and NOW everybodys on his side now after all this .and i don’t get it the word heaven came out of sissy’s mouth!and that is true kim is always lookin over sissy’s shoulder.
my problem is that my moms sister can’t say no names don’t want my mom dead by those physycotic BIT%^$S nowww told officer carpentier that mike longtree her buddie told that he didn’t do anything but he was there and saw sissy,joanne, and maude do all this . and the secret is now spreading and NOW everybodys on his side now after all this .and i don’t get it the word heaven came out of sissy’s mouth!and that is true kim is always lookin over sissy’s shoulder.
my problem is that my moms sister can’t say no names don’t want my mom dead by those physycotic BIT%^$S nowww told officer carpentier that mike longtree her buddie told that he didn’t do anything but he was there and saw sissy,joanne, and maude do all this . and the secret is now spreading and NOW everybodys on his side now after all this .and i don’t get it the word heaven came out of sissy’s mouth!and that is true kim is always lookin over sissy’s shoulder.
my problem is that my moms sister can’t say no names don’t want my mom dead by those physycotic BIT%^$S nowww told officer carpentier that mike longtree her buddie told that he didn’t do anything but he was there and saw sissy,joanne, and maude do all this . and the secret is now spreading and NOW everybodys on his side now after all this .and i don’t get it the word heaven came out of sissy’s mouth!and that is true kim is always lookin over sissy’s shoulder.
Marc Racicot works for the American Insurance Association, perhaps he can be reached via this email address:
info@aiadc.org
Help FREE BARRY BEACH. Please help free Barry, If you have any information that will help Barry, please come forward. Don’t let him sit there any longer. He was my classmate and I would like to see him set free. I feel sad that Barry has to be in prison. Please help set him free. I am asking for your help, please find it in your heart to come forward and give him a chance at life. Please tell them what you know before you die. If it is the last thing you do in life to make amends with God, please tell the truth and set Barry free.
Does anyone know how to contact Marc Raciot?
It looked like he had aged twenty years in the last year when he was before the Board of Pardons. Maybe we could offer him some beauty advice–take a look at Sissy, it is doing the same thing to you.
Unbelievable! The Dateline show has created national outrage! This is a good blog, but the MSNBC website, under the Dateline tab and under Keith Morrisons blog, there are many hundreds perhaps over a thousand postings (too many to read) from throughout the nation and Canada, mostly epressing outrage over Barry’s treatment and Montana’s justice system. Here’s a link: http://insidedateline.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/04/858999.aspx
Unfortunatly, thanks to our hard-headed corrupt elected public offcials, Montana is getting a bad reputation, some people say they will never visit here. Thanks alot Racicot, Schweitzer, McGrath, BOPP, ect… The genie is out of the bottle now, only bold, decisive leadership can put her back in, can we dream on?
Has there been any response from the Montana Governor yet? You would think with all the negative things being said on the Dateline blog about Montana he would have something to say. It appears the Dateline blog is about 99.9 % in favor of opening the door and letting Barry out.
Steve Gray Hawks phone number is 406-768-5698. Maybe we should give this scum bag a phone call and share your mind with him. Ask him these questions. A preacher my A@#.He should rot in hell with his daughter and that crack head Sissy Atkinson.
This has obviously become one of the biggest murder cases in Montana history in terms of press. Right up there with our Unibomber. So, when Barry gets a new trial, is the media going to be there for that as well? That would help guarantee a fair trial if it is in front of the public eye. Will Dateline NBC return? Who’s to say what might happen without the media present.
Why have the fingerprints and hand print not been run through AFIS? I am in law enforcement and believe that the evidence shows beyond all doubt that Barry Beach is NOT the murderer of Kimberly Nees. AFIS, for all that don’t know, is the Automated Fingerprint Identification System. All law enforcement (FBI or MT AG’s office) has access to it. If the murderer(s) have ever had their fingerprints taken, they will be in this system. From the looks of Sissy Adkinson, Joanne Jackson and Maude Gray Hawk, they have been to jail at least once and would have had their fingerprints taken. With a positive match, we have a prime suspect and then people will start singing like a canary. Case solved. Innocent man goes free. Guily go to prison. Society is a little bit safer while we sleep.
From the Poplar Blog
http://groups.msn.com/AllFortPeckTribalMembers/general.msnw?action=get_threads
General : “The Killing at Poplar River” - Dateline
Recommend Message 1 of 16 in Discussion
From: MSN Nicknamewheres_my_caramel_corn (Original Message) Sent: 4/5/2008 3:23 Pm
What are your opinions on last night’s episode?
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Recommend Message 2 of 16 in Discussion
From: MSN NicknameMIGHTYbrighty Sent: 4/5/2008 4:32 PM
It was interesting! one of my friends who came to stay this weekend…
who didn’t even know anything about the whole thing situation…..said after it was done, that it was obvious…….
Free Barry Beach!
As for myself, it was interesting…..idk, i have alot of thoughts in my head! makes me think twice about things that for sure…
i bet the whole rez watched it huh
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Recommend Message 3 of 16 in Discussion
From: MSN Nicknameanpetu1 Sent: 4/5/2008 5:54 PM
It is totally obvious that there is a coverup and that Barry is innocent. It is also obvious that Sissy and Joann are hiding something. Of course Maudes’ non-appearance speaks volumes.
An innocent man had spent a lifetime locked up. Come on Montana do the right thing by him and the victim; free Barry and put the guilty away.
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From: MSN Nicknamelilndnboy067 Sent: 4/5/2008 8:41 PM
come on people. i talked with my dad and he said back in the day when a & s was going strong, the oil business was still booming and the bars were full almost every night it was pretty crazy. he told me about a place called “beer can flats” and another called the “end of the pavement” and even “bloomer hill” i guess when a & s was going strong, there were 3 shifts going 24/7. i was afraid that poplar was going to be made out to be worse than it is. he told me that there were a few unsolved murders around that time and it was pretty wild downtown and he said there were great big beer parties all the time.
now these people who have come forward with “evidence” well seem to be in the same boat that you people portray ms. atkinson, jackson, and gray hawk.
richard holen-convicted felon, dun oconner-convicted felon, vonnie brown-convicted felon, carl 4star-drug addict, alcoholic, mental patient, and the other mrs. gray hawk-reportedly bad alcoholic. did you people ever stop to think that these people would ever have any credibility. as for the palm print, did you people not hear that all of the listed suspects gave palm prints and none matched. what mahlum said made sense because of the people who live on the hill could have walked down there and picked up something bloody and put it down, got up and ran. fearing that they may be questioned as a suspect stopped them from coming forward. that kind of makes sense to me because the truck nbc put down there got vandalized too.
to me mr. beach will never get out and this is a waste of time so i’ll never comment on this matter again. it will get appealed to the montana supreme court and united states supreme court-again-get shot down again and everyone will be madder than ever.
i would not dis mr. racicot and any other important people-because it just makes them angrier and they already hold all the cards and by making them angry, powerful men in high places is scary. it seems to me that you guys are just digging mr. beach in deeper.
so i wish you supporters the best and don’t be so angry and full of vengance because it may come back on you one day. isn’t that what they call karma.
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From: MSN Nicknamepoplarndn22 Sent: 4/5/2008 9:30 PM
ok steve barr…whatever you say steve barr…
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From: MSN Nicknamechungawakan1 Sent: 4/5/2008 10:17 PM
Yeah it’s pretty obvious-he is innocent. Aw hell, you all know how it is on the rez!Family feuds can go on for generation to generation. People can hold a grudge til their death bed-even if they are in the wrong-their pride and stubbornness will never allow them to admit to the truth. There are a LOT of secrets that a LOT of people have on the rez that they are not willing to talk about. It’s just a fact of life-and it’s not just about the Beach case either. It’s much easier to try to forget about something and pretend it never happened, than it is to open up a can o’ worms and say the truth. Sad but true. Yeah the Dateline show just made the tribal, county and state of Montana police and judicial system the laughing stock of the nation. Pretty sad to see how the ‘good ole boy system’ is being run-even on the state level, but not surprising.
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From: C_FourstarJr. Sent: 4/5/2008 10:36 PM
I watched it,,, the thing that got me the most is that Richie MdDonald, a sherriffs deputy lied in court. At that time he worked iin deep draw where there was a lot of machineery. I worked in netting where it was quite, you could hear the crikets all night long.
So for my not hearing anything, well McDanals is a lliar,,, Hell last stampede weekend while he was on duty he pointed me out to one of the atkinson kids, I wound up in a fight with him and two of his friends…….. Now the sheriff even just stood there. Arent they supoosed to protect and serve?
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From: MSN Nicknameicisipic1 Sent: 4/5/2008 11:52 PM
Never back down.
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From: MSN Nicknameanpetu1 Sent: 4/6/2008 8:26 AM
Why is it that if someone reputation is questionable, their credibility is not acceptable?? Look at Richie MC his credibility isnt any good and neither are the “high ups” who we arent supposed to “dis”! In fact it is well known that politicians are crooked and police officers can lie through their teeth. Is lilndnboy tryin to be part of the “good ole boy” network? Or admires their ways so much he would emulate them?
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From: MSN Nicknamerezzer2006 Sent: 4/6/2008 8:41 AM
Triple Nickle - I mean Richie MacDonald - is a LAUGHING STOCK!!! Hell, is he even physically fit to fulfill his duties??? He was a stoner when he was in school and now he’s trying to act all “Mr. Law Enforcer” - his credibility is ZIP, ZERO, ZAP!!! What a waste of our tax dollars paying his salary!!!
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From: lilrezgirl Sent: 4/6/2008 10:14 AM
you are really something,, some of US were here in 79 and all the years before and after… there were and still are tons of party places.The truth is sad yes, anyone who was out and about that night were out partying,,, it was rodeo weekend , we had just graduated, it was summer… there was a fresh batch of LSD in town, and it was the thing to do….
mr. Holen, convicted felon… so what?? He has made mistakes, he paid for them and has gone on.. Dunn.. same thing, you don’t see them out in the streets tweeking, shooting up meth, heroine or crack… Carl Four Star, so what, he has made mistakes, he is not out causing ANYONE any harm, and is living a decent life for living here.
For your information, NO ONE has given PALM prints… only finger prints and hair samples, what Dean Mahlum says,,, you have got to be joking, did this unknown single person who left a “supposed” palm print leave 32 different fingerprints? oh how about the 5 different footprints in the drag trail and the one barefoot print by the bank where Kims body was put into the river??
I really wish indin boy, that you would do more than just read what you want.. obviously when people from across the nation are watching this unfold on Dateline and they see the cover up… and the lies, you are very much in the dark,..stiffled by your relationships with the cops involved or the girls, or ed v or caleb g… because NO ONE else anywhere, believes the lies and coverups.. why don’t you find a new pasttime cuz you suck at this.
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From: MSN NicknameStebwood791 Sent: 4/6/2008 10:39 AM
My opinion is that there are WAY too many unanswered questions. And for pity’s sake, how can anyone believe that there is absolutly no evidence that would prove that Barry Beach is innocent? It seems to me that all the evidence was bungled and or tampered with. Seriously!! My opinion is that this was a very high profile unsolved case that helped our former govenor get his political career boosted. I think that there is a very vested interest in keeping the truth covered up, be it political or otherwise.
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From: MSN NicknameWaseatchuTalkLot Sent: 4/6/2008 3:10 PM
I watched the “dateline program” all I can say is wow.
Roscoe misled (provided False “fact” knowingly! ) to the jury that the hair was Barry’s? Document said it was Similar No conclusive evidence. Except that of a brow beaten, ignorant boy. (Ignorant meaning “not knowing what he was doing”)
We LOST THE TAPE…? but a “trustworthy officer” wrote it down.?? Oh forgive me all police are “good” right ..Like ALL priests?
WE NEED POLICE! Do not twist my words; we need men & women walking upright in the light “ as beacons for society” also following the law.
We had the **** but Somebody…?? Broke in & stole it. (Evidence tampering falls under “conspiracy & attempt” & CAN carry the same prosecution as the original crime, look it up.)
45-4-101. Solicitation.
45-4-102. Conspiracy. <o:p></o:p>
45-4-103. Attempt.<o:p></o:p>
45-7-305. Compounding a felony.<o:p></o:p>
45-8-105. Criminal incitement.
http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/mca_toc/index.htm “Index”<o:p></o:p>
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Conspiracy only takes 2 people; it goes on all the time.<o:p></o:p>
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On & on & on lies upon lies. This should SCARE THE HELL out of you!!! Abuse of powers is rampant in the USA & it happens because people do not know their rights under the const… Or what’s left of it.
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The old saying: “If you can’t dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullshit” <o:p></o:p>
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Should not be a “MO” of law enforcement. Have a nice day!
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From: MSN Nicknamereznut1 Sent: 4/6/2008 4:39 PM
Waseatchu - right on. Lilndnboy you need not bash anyone - don’t make me shed light on your ’shortcomings’. I’ve seen crimes / cases of the same magnitude get tossed out of courts across the nation due to lack of evidence - so why not with the Beach case? Well I’m gonna go now and check out the montanans for justice website & latest posts. ttyal
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From: MSN Nicknamedigitalmontana1 Sent: 4/6/2008 8:39 PM
richie mocdonald lied…back in the day when that conversation allegedly took place it was not noisy……there wasnt any machinery back there to make it noisy…just a bunch of netting on the floor with people working it…..how would he even know? he never worked back there….
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From: MSN Nicknamedigitalmontana1 Sent: 4/6/2008 8:40 PM
and i will be telling centurion what a worthless fat young girl chasin POS he really is
The phone number for the Attorney General’s office is 406-444-2026. Call and tell him he should come to the legal opinion that the murder case of Kim Nees needs to be re-investegated and he should call the Roosevelt County Attorney and tell him that.
The Attorney General has the authority to issue “legal opinions” to County Attorneys.
The phone number for the Governor’s Office is
406-444-3111. You don’t have to be a Montanan to call and ask why Barry is still in prison and when he is going to let Barry out.
Tomorrow is Monday, call the Governor and insist Barry be released.
I just wrote my own letter to the Montana agencies but they wont do anything.
They all looked so pitiful in their defense especially Marc Racicot who wants to maintain a positive legacy just like the wannabe Bull Connors sheriff from Louisiana.
Personally I think his legal team should give up on Montana doing anything and go to the Feds. Why? I’m no lawyer but I gotta think that when you had 10 interstate phone calls between Montana and Louisina there was a conspiracy(even if inadvertent) to deprive Barry of his Civil Rights and the Feds were not involved in the original investigation and have nothing to protect. Plus I bet thaey can find that missing girl and remember they have inprisoned more people with “lying to a Federal Officer” than they catch for the crime.
After watching Dateline Friday night and reading everything that I can about the Barry Beach case, I am appalled with what is going on in the state of Montana. All the evidence points to the fact that Barry Beach did not commit this terrible crime. Even the sister of the victim knows and stated that Barry did not commit the crime. All the evidence points to the fact that other people were involved in this crime. The people involved in prosecuting this case are trying to cover their inept handling of this case. The prosecutor said that the pubic hair found on Kim’s sweater was definitely from Barry Beach. He lied and then this “hair” disappears so there can be no DNA test, for this very reason alone Barry Beach should have had a new trail. There is a major cover-up going on and there should be many people in jail….but not BARRY BEACH!!! The corruption that is going on in your state is sickening.
Written By: Michele from Virginia
After watching Dateline Friday night and reading everything that I can about the Barry Beach case, I am appalled with what is going on in the state of Montana. All the evidence points to the fact that Barry Beach did not commit this terrible crime. Even the sister of the victim knows and stated that Barry did not commit the crime. All the evidence points to the fact that other people were involved in this crime. The people involved in prosecuting this case are trying to cover their inept handling of this case. The prosecutor said that the pubic hair found on Kim’s sweater was definitely from Barry Beach. He lied and then this “hair” disappears so there can be no DNA test, for this very reason alone Barry Beach should have had a new trail. There is a major cover-up going on and there should be many people in jail….but not BARRY BEACH!!! The corruption that is going on in your state is sickening.
Clinton and Obama are both in Montana. They could win or lose votes by commenting on this case. Can anyone get some questions to them?
I watched the Dateline episode and am totally convinced that Barry has been made the scapegoat for every person involved in this investigation! I also read the case documents on this website after watching Dateline. I did not know that Kim Nees had been pregnant until I read it here - was she pregnant at the time of her murder? If so, could that be a factor? Just wondering…
McGrath used his power to hide an injustice against me for 5 years. His excuse was that he had no power over the Department of Justice. Everyone admitted that what blanketed me was an injustice, but nobody would help fix it. Kind of like what we have here. I’m sure everyone intimatly involved in this case (either side) honestly believes Barry Beach is innocent, but like always, our politicians lie and hide to save face. As voting citizens, we need to start demanding political candidates who will stand up for justice. Who will make moral decisions. Who will be honest. It is possible.
AMEN TO THAT! Keep Mike McGrath out of the Supreme Court. As the attorney general, he gave this case to underlings so he could hide his name from this problem case, especially if it got over-turned. Then it would not be his fault. Yet, he has made statements to the newspaper about Barry Beach. He is just as corrupt in this as Marc Racicot is. He is covering it up. All he would have to do is say “reopen it” and the truth would come out. As long as McGrath hides from the truth, I will make it a life’s mission to keep him out of any political office or any judicial panel.
These 3 on the parole board picked what testimony they wanted to believe but flat out said they didn’t believe any of the 34 defense witnesses that came forward. NO physical evidence linked Barry to the crime scene. I am very frustrated with my native state right now. I will be moving back real soon.
Myself, my family, and my friends will remember, next election, the people that have the power to overturn this sad case.
The 3 crooks on the Parole Board…
Vance Curtiss (406) 727-2055
Margaret Bowman (406) 475-3761
Teresa McCann O’Connor (406)252-7127 (Work number,she is an attorney in Billings with her husband)
Hey people. Do you want a glimpse of the future.
Montana’s Attorney General, Mike McGrath, who has worked diligently with Mark the Roscoit, is running for Supreme Court Justice of Montana.
Guess what?
The Supreme Court is backlogged right now. What if Mike McGrath wins and is elected Head of the Supreme Court of Montana. This is where this case is heading next to the Supreme Court.
You know what? Barry just can’t seem to shake the bad guys, and some think the bad guys are in their with Barry.
PLEASE EVERYONE, LETS DO WHAT WE HAVE TO, TO MAKE SURE MIKE MCGRATH IS NOT ELECTED TO THE SUPREME COURT. BARRY HAS HAD ENOUGH BAD LUCK.
Who cares about the evidence he tampered with? Come forward Maude. Say what really hapened that night. Tell who was there and what your dad did to cover your butt. You might come out smelling like roses compared to what everyone else will smell like. The truth will speak volumes.
maybe this case was pushed through so fast because it was political. Senator Stanley Nees was a well-respected gentleman statewide and I’m sure the State of MT felt they owed it to his family members to put closure to this ASAP. That would mean that raciot really does suck (literally).
Steve GrayHawk has always gotten his jollies (***MFJ***Part of this comment has been deleted for inappropriate content. Comments containing offensive language or context will be removed. Offensiveness is at the discretion of the blog author, Montanans For Justice. Thank you for your cooperation.***MFJ***). Maude would rat his butt out in a heartbeat if he hadn’t removed the evidence. They will both burn in Hell, right next to Sissy Atkinson & Joann Jackson.
#122, you are as smart as God? My bad, I figured you were smarter than God. I respect law enforcement, but you guys who give parking tickets when the meter is 2 minutes overdue kind of irritate me. Or was that you who kicked the door in and took the evidence? No suprise there. And no this isn’t heaven, and I’m not one to judge you, but when I get there I doubt I’ll be seeing you there. I hope I’m wrong, so God help you.
ps- In this real world, my viewpoint of the facts is irrelevent, but maybe you should learn to read more carefully, for the facts here don’t lie.
I still believe you are a Montana Law Enforcement officer. Therefore, one way or the other, you are involved in the coverup and corruption. If you believe the evidence provided is one sided, show us the other evidence. I don’t believe you can do that, the evidence has been shown. There is not an ace in the hole for the state. So who will cut who out of the game first. Will it be McGrath, or Racicot, or Grayhawk?
Montman, no, as a real law enforcement officer, by most definitions. I read the read the details, which are only “facts” based upon your veiwpoint. Yes, I am as smart as god. Can you prove otherwise? This is the real world; not heaven.
Let’s hear it for investigative journalism.
Yessssssssssss!
Hmmm…selective on the posts that go up here?
That’s odd…
1) Power Corrupts
2) Drug & Alcohol Corrupts
3) Girls allowed to roam like a pack of wild dogs and then are protected by “law enforcement” family can get away with murder.
4) Remove those in power (i.e. Parole board, politicians involved, etc.) and it cuts into their wallet. That’s all they understand.
Pardon and Parole Board…you have all contributed to this injustice- you can’t tell me the former 2 time governor didn’t have any influence on your decision…what a shame. As a voting member of society I WANT ANSWERS! Racicot are you ready to answer to the people who put you where you are now? Schweitzer step up and do the right thing…
I am sorry that you would not post my PRIOR comment as I used the word a - -! I did not even think about it, I am simply very upset and shocked about the complete cover up and set up! I was present while a suspect was questioned! Barry is innocent!!!!!! political gain! Crooked, crooked, all the way. I will pray for your freedom Barry! I believe you! I watched the show the proof is right in front of everyone! The foot prints were ignored! Why? The hand print on the truck? I seen a picture up close!There is no reason that has not been procesed as of yet! COVER UP! Barry should be free now and should have been set free long ago! The legal system in Montana has the right to break laws, ignore laws,change laws? Why is that? Political gain?
simply sick!!! Hang in there Barry, it will happen, It has too!!!!!!! The State of Montana might not be listening to the truth, to the witness’s, or the evidence as it so clearly speaks of Barry’s innocence! Heck” they won’t even allow the true evidence to be apart of the case! I am so sorry, and ashamed of these people who are involved representing our State in this fashion! CROOKED! For personal gain in stead of gutts to stand up and make this very horrible wrong, RIGHT! God Be with Barry!
Let the truth set him FREE!!!!!
Governor Schweitzer says he can’t over rule the parole Board. I believe he can order the case reopened. I know he could order the crime lab to undergo an investigation to find the missing evidence that might free Barry. You cannot be afraid of the truth.
This has to be one of the sadest stories I have heard of, How can they convict a man with NO Real Evidence????? I see nothing here that says Barry Beach did the crime, other than the confession that seems he was bullied into giving. My heart goes out to Kims family and I really hope they get justice some day , as for what is going on now, I dont believe this is justice, Something is definitly not right in this case. There seemed to be more evidence against the crack head Sissy , then there was against Barry. I have to agree with #104 , this needs to be taken out of the state because there is a lot of corruption going on. As for Barry, I’ll keep him in my prayers and pray for a release of what seems to be an Innocent Man.
I don’t think I can decide whether or not Barry is guilty from an obviously biased TV program, but who cares? This obviously goes far beyond reasonable doubt. It is well-known that a jury is more likely to convict an innocent man than let a guilty one go free. This is especially true for violent crimes, which play off of their emotions. Never forget the importance of “innocent until proven guilty”, because prosecutors are far too good at what they do.
I was born in Montana but have not lived there since I was very little…my family is there so I decided to watch the Dateline episode. I’ve heard nothing about the case until last night and am stunned and saddened to see that an obviously innocent man is still behind bars. If after watching a two hour program I am convinced of his innocence it is incomprehensible that anyone with an ounce of common sense can keep him in prison. Racicot is an embarassment and clearly had a hand in the parole boards blatently biased decision. I thought we were innocent until proven guilty but from what I can tell the State hasn’t proven anything but incompetence.
Did you see the Jackson girls face. She wouldn’t look at the camera. Scared. She was in bed she said like Sissy and her sister at 11PM. You should talk first Joanne. Don’t let Sissy or Maude send you to jail.
Cybuliski & Racicot have a long life in the high plains Republican party????HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
What about chief police Bobby Atkinson????? Where the hell were u when evidence dissapeared???????
What about chief police Bobby Atkinson????? Where the hell were u when evidence dissapeared???????
I can’t say that Beach committed this crime or not, but I can say that I wouldn’t have found him guilty of it in a court of law.
Don’t worry Maude Satan has a special place in hell just for you. How in the hell can you live with yourself after all the deaths you’ve caused? Aren’t there 7 deaths that have occured on the rez all because of YOUR actions?
Hmmmmm, Louisiana officers, when I say the first word that comes to my mind it is CORRUPTION. They have been exposed over and over again for this. Not just one department but many. I am so sorry for Kim’s family that the murderers are still out there (in my opinion) The truth is that the words justice mean nothing to lawmakers, officials or “peacemakers” anymore. It is a word they hide behind to make themselves feel grander, more important and wealthier.
John Adams is probably turning over in his grave to see such a tremendous injustice.
Maude, Sissy, all you others. Get a lawyer. Have your lawyer work a deal with the state of Montana. Be the first to tell the truth and you may save yourself from spending the rest of your lives in prison in Billings. Once the truth is out, there is no need to be afraid anymore. The others will be in prison and can’t come after you. Save yourself. Nobody else is going to protect you when the smeely stuff stats to hit the fan.
Steve Grey Hawk is a piece of sh*t…ask anyone in Poplar. Everyone knows he’s full of shit in everything he does. He tries to act like he’s “all for the kids” but everyone remembers what he did. I was surprised they didnt say anything about Bobby Atkinson being the Chief of Police during the time of murder. How he covered up involvment when it came to his sister Sissy. There’s so much cover-up in this case it’s not even funny. The case needs to be taken out of state because at least it will be heard faithfully.
Steve Grey Hawk is a piece of sh*t…ask anyone in Poplar. Everyone knows he’s full of shit in everything he does. He tries to act like he’s “all for the kids” but everyone remembers what he did. I was surprised they didnt say anything about Bobby Atkinson being the Chief of Police during the time of murder. How he covered up involvment when it came to his sister Sissy. There’s so much cover-up in this case it’s not even funny. The case needs to be taken out of state because at least it will be heard faithfully.
#100—- Of course he was protecting some one—his daughter Maude. Now he is trying to be a preacher. Maybe the guilt is too heavy??
Sissy Atkinson—-Do you read this blog? You were not convincing on Dateline. Your guilt line face and actions gave you away. Why keep lying and trying to convince others when no one believes you. and Maude— Do you read this blog? Have you noticed there is more hate directed toward you then any of the other women? How can you live with that? Tell the truth.
Why was officer Greyhawk never investigated or prosecuted for destroying evidence???? What was a BIA or tribal cop doing in the Sheriffs office???? Hmmmm!!!!??????????? Protecting one of the guilty parties??????
Why was officer Greyhawk never investigated or prosecuted for destroying evidence???? What was a BIA or tribal cop doing in the Sheriffs office???? Hmmmm!!!!??????????? Protecting one of the guilty parties??????
hthonda,#95 Myself I am Proud Montana Native too not only that I am proud graduate of Poplar High School Class of “79″. A classmate of Kim’s a victim of this terrible crime and I even knew Barry back in the day and some of their family. I always wondered why noboby said much. I only heard briefly about Barry being sent to Prison. I have visited KIM’ grave and said prayer for her in the past. I have no information to offer because I never gone back to Poplar except for brief visits. Now I know a evil secrect is living there. I pray today that this nation responds to this website. I watched every second of the show bravo dateline. Thank you Montanan’s for justice for this website. Not so proud to be Montanan today though. The ex Govenor the ex cops the judges the parole board yes they need to be investigated. Other people charged with murder get lighter sentences and even get released after so many years. Three weeks for the parole board to make a decision?? Come on Montana when is your governor up for reelection. Clean house.
that would be… “seems NONE to difficult to believe . . . justice.” And, while I’m back, what’s going on here is CYA; sure not ALL cops, guards, DA’s, etc. have a ‘hang em high mentality” . . . maybe there are a couple, or at least maybe one such person exists . . . somewhere? ;o)
Al in Kansas
Agreed Texas, it’s amazing what difference there can be between the Justice System and a Just System. . . not to mention actual justice! It seems to me that one of the major faults in this system, as in most other legal systems, is that procedurally the BOPP likely is limited in what they can consider when making their decision. When the case is re-considered, the board must follow specific guidelines of review. This may tie their hands (complicitly or not) to a great degree. For instance, a quick at the original case indicates that a detective Via testified that Barry confessed in presence of counsel. (Beach v. State, 217 Mont. 132, 705 P.2d 94 (1985). Apparently, this is testimony which was not refuted during trial. Appeals specifically mention that claims of duress, coercion, etc. are negated by this supposed confession! Obviously this is one of a multitude of problems with this conviction. I have not delved too deeply into Barry’s case, just the program and til now, but it seems difficult to believe that in this case agenda outweighed justice. And, it appears to have served Rasciot well. No surprise he is the president of an insurance lobbying group!
Al in Kansas
This is exactly why justice will never be done: Marc Racicot is as dirty as they come (except maybe that Calhoun sicko in Louisiana) but he is part of Bush’s inner circle (a la Karl Rove) and therefore untouchable. They can’t exonnerate Beach because it would embarrass Racicot. He’s as good a liar as that drug addict who was likely involved in the murder. He probably thinks of her as scum of the earth, but they’re the same in my books. I wish to God this country’s citizens would drop everything and mass march to Washington, shut the country down, refuse to work or pay bills. If we could all show some solidarity the real crooks would be out of business.
Ok I usally don’t Blog, but I feel I have to on this one. I am a Montana native and I had never heard of this case until tonight on Dateline. I was pretty young when this happened in 1979. I left Montana in 1991, but I am always bragging to people that I am originally from Montana and telling them how one day I hope to move “home”. But now I am embarrassed to even say I am from Montana. Boy, people must really think that Montana has no justice. Like I stated above I had never heard of this case until tonight and just what I have learned in this short of a time period I am convinced that Barry is innocent. This case is really showing how backwoods and reckneck the justice system in Montana really is. It make us look like fools. Makes you wonder how many innocent people in MSP are there. Come on people there is NO evidence against Barry other than some crooked Louisiana cops (and I know for a fact they are as I have lived there also)who made up a story to get some short lived fame. This is ridiculous why wont Montana let them retest the bloody palm print? To me this sounds like they are scared it may reveal something they do not revealed. That right there will prove who was at the scene. Come on Montana justice quit looking like hillbillies and do the right thing and let this man prove his innocence and put the REAL KILLER behind bars.
Ok I usally don’t Blog, but I feel I have to on this one. I am a Montana native and I had never heard of this case until tonight on Dateline. I was pretty young when this happened in 1979. I left Montana in 1991, but I am always bragging to people that I am originally from Montana and telling them how one day I hope to move
Good Luck!! I am writing the Montana governor! What an outrage!
Why the hell didn’t we hear more about the man who stole the physical evidence?
HE should be in prison along with his daughter!
How can the state of Montana be that stupid! Find out whose bloody prints are all over the crime scene! How hard can that be with a population of Popular in 1979?
Citizen of Texas.
It shakes one’s belief in the justice system when something like this happens.
I hope that the Dateline feature brings about justice for Mr. Beach.
Unfortunately, there is no way he can be given back the years he has lost in prison.
Shame on the people that convicted him with no evidence. How do they sleep at night?
Read the introductory piece for DATELINE set to air tonight. They point right at Racicot
http://insidedateline.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/04/858999.aspx
I agree a TV show will not get Barry out of jail. It will expose some of the corruption in Montana. It will show the nation some of the illegal and unlawfull actions of the law in Montana. Marc Racicot won’t be able to hide from it, just because he is in Washington. It will show a trail to Washington. The more people who know what happened to Barry Beach and question what happened to Kim Nees, the closer we will be to the truth and justice. Tonight the nation will know.
Why would I want to physically confront professed murderers? I know that is your idiotic way of thinking, but I would rather just have them in prison forever than to confront them. And let’s see…the hillside strangler? Hmmm…The autopsy showed no signs of strangulation on Kim Nees body. If Barry Beach had strangled Kim Nees, it would have been VERY evident in the autopsy. Your argument only makes Barry’s case stronger, since he confessed to strangling her, but was proven that he could not have. Who is stupid now?
the one dude sounds like a pretty smart cookie. the rest of you, well that’s a whole different story.
face the “facts” a tv show is not gonna get barry “the hillside strangler” out of jail.
you guys who are always saying things about the “real killers” try this, go and say it to their face. i would be more than happy to do the same with you if i had the chance.
Shy Blog Checker:
What an honorable thing to say! I applaud your consideration in this matter. An open mind will lead you to the same conclusion I have come to: Barry Beach is innocent. Maybe not now, but you seem to have an above average intelligence. The more you look, the more you will become sure. Our problem is that most people in our world do not have an open mind. They enter any situation with preconceived ideas and biased opinions. This ends mostly in hatred from both sides. We have fought wars over little more. I just want to thank you for being the TYPE of person I would be PROUD to call FRIEND, no matter what conclusion you make in the end. As a sad society, we need more people in the world like you…willing to listen. Thanks again.
BTW…Dude. I never encountered a sentence that long in any portion of the reading comprehension on my SATs, ASVAB, or LSAT. Must be the TABE test that tests your ability to comprehend the punctuation in a rambling run-on sentence that long. Sorry…never took that test…Dude.
Sorry, more wit there. My apologies again. LOL!
Lol! I was lacking tact in my reply. I was trying to be witty. It came out offensive. As a result, my point was lost. My apologies.
Hey dude, I read #81 and it looks like you didnt score well on the reading comprehension portion of your SAT’s. Get somebody to read through it with you and then ask them to write something that makes sense.
“Snitch”…done a little time have you? Just because someone has adopted the inmate code does not make them an honorable man. I would hope Mr. Beach would have shared any information he had because he is the solid human being many are claiming him to be. That would speak more for him than your comment praising him because he didn’t “rat”.
You will never get anyone to take this cause seriously with simple statements like that. It won’t further a solution…just cause further arguments that will push a resolution further and further away.
Ok, I guess I couldn’t resist checking for any responses. I have to concede that you make two very valid points that I do agree with very strongly. If there are four individuals that truly are guilty and they have eluded justice for these many years than the Nees family has only perceived that they received justice with Mr. Beach’s conviction. The state may be hesitant to re-evaluate the evidence for fear of re-opening these old wounds for them. However, as I try empathize with what they have likely been through over the years, I find myself believing that I would feel worse if after all these years an innocent person was forced to sacrifice their freedom so I could feel comfort for my loss.
You can’t put a price on justice. If this other evidence is valid and can be tested against the other subjects and would incriminate them…we have a duty to do so in the interest of justice.
While I am still not convinced of Mr. Beach’s innocence…you have convinced me that the case should be re-visited in the interest of justice for all.
Your organization can claim a small success tomorrow evening. Many Montanans I have encountered through work and in the community are talking about Mr. Beach. You have established a forum and many that were oblivious to this issue are now taking interest. Not all are going to share the views of Montanans for Justice…but you have succeeded in getting people to take notice and discuss it with one another.
I will be watching tomorrow evening as, I am sure, will many others.
You know, IF Barry Beach had committed this crime, he could have told good ol Mark Rasciot that back in 97′ when Rasciot offered him his freedom if he would just say he killed Kim… but Barry knows he did not kill Kim, so he told old Rasciot where to take his offer.. If Barry had been there all he would have to do, is snitch on one person and he would be out, therefore,,, DUH,,, he didn’t do it and will not say he did, he is a true MAN and his word is his honor,, more than I can say for the AG’s office who obviously keep trying to convince people by writting on this blog.. yes Mike and Tammy even McGrath, it is obvious because you use the same tired blah, blah, blah over and over,… Hey,,, try something new, this is getting a bit old..
You have written a well reasoned post. As a member of Montanans for Justice I would like to clarify a couple of points though. Clearly we as a group are biased that Barry is innocent of this crime. This bias was only arrived at though by study of all the facts. We have attempted to post all the facts and documents, including the states responses unfavorable to Mr Beach, on this site. The confession has to be viewed in the light that the skilled Monroe, LA detectives extracted confessions from Mr Beach on two local murders when he was proven to be out of state. These detectives then skillfully extracted false confession for the same murders from another individul who also was exonerated. This coupled with Mr Beach’s confession not matching the crime scene casts extreme doubt on his guilt. I think we would however doubt his innocence if evidence tied him to the crime scene. The evidence gathered initially was voluminous and NONE mathes Barry Beach. So a faulty confession IS all holding him prison. Lastly you cannot discount the multiple statements made by the true suspects over the years. If Barry Beach and the Nees family are to recieve justice then we have to punish those truly guilty. There is still evidence available to test against suspects but the state resists. Why? If Barry is guilty why not test that evidence and put this to rest.
I can’t help but make a comment here. Normally, I just mind my own business when I see two sides passionately flaming each other over topics that they are purely speculating about. I truthfully have not followed this case other than glancing at the stories in the local newspaper as it has been high profile as of late. I do work in community corrections and the concept that convicts are very adept at lying is not exactly a revelation to me. However, I have noted some important points of my own for both sides here. ALL GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIES ASIDE:
The evidence presented on Beach’s behalf does have significant merit. I am skeptical, however, as the only source I have read is this website and it is obviously focusing heavily on Beach’s innocence. So, the presentation is naturally going to be biased. That being said - It is my opinion that those of you supporting Mr. Beach do have a legitimate right and demand to have the legality of this conviction examined. The physical evidence in this case does not appear to point to Mr. Beach…but does not necessarily exonerate him either.
Mr. Beach’s “confession”, coerced or otherwise seems to be the source of much of this debate. The fact that he claimed to not know anything the first time he was questioned is irrelevant. Quit arguing about that. It is pointless. Guilty or innocent, that interview would have been the same result. It proves nothing on either side. The fact that his confession taken in Louisiana does not match up to the crime scene should have intrigued even a mildly intelligent investigator to delve deeper. However, it is not concrete evidence of innocence. Time had passed…details fade in one’s mind. Crime’s of passion are not pre-meditated and details can be missed in one’s mind. More importantly, there is no documentation establishing that Mr. Beach was not under the influence of any alcohol or narcotics the night Ms. Nees was murdered. Details would be lacking if he was intoxicated…but he damn well would have known he had murdered someone that evening.
Most importantly, the section titled “the likely suspects” is crap people. Most of the evidence presented there is hearsay and it is coming from a majority of individuals that can be established through the Montana CONWEB and the BOP as drug addicts and criminals. One of the people cited as a source of information is a sexual offender. Hearsay does not stand up in a court of law and these people are not reliable. Sorry!
Mr. Beach, however, does appear to have some credibility. As far as I can tell, he had no prior felonies and this is the only offense on his record. The investigative focus that was targeted on him based on his confession, coerced or otherwise, and the sentence he ultimately received does certainly seem like the poor man may have been railroaded.
Law enforcement did not have the investigative techniques in that day that we have now. Would he have been cleared as a suspect if it happened today? No one could possibly know. Small town sherrifs still aren’t qualified to conduct lengthy investigations. Don’t even get me started on Tribal Cops. For those that are dedicated, I apologise, but the majority I have read reports from and interacted with are a joke. One would see more proffesionalism from a loss prevention officer at Target. I don’t discount the claim that those guys look out for their family first one bit. We see it first hand all the time here in Montana.
Bottom line and brass tacks…from the BOPP and the Supreme Court Point of view, Barry Beach has had decades to study his case with little else to distract him. He wouldn’t be the first inmate to make enough claims to muddy the waters enough to convince people to champion his cause for him. Short of a major discovery and introduction of evidence that shifts the proponderance of evidence to to the point where there isn’t a shadow of a doubt about his innocence, he will remain an inmate. All that anyone has accomplished is to question the legitamacy of the evidence that convicted him. If his legal counsel was worth anything it should have been done in the trial. Even a deathbed confession without direct evidence to legitimize the claim is practically worthless.
I am not convinced that Barry Beach is an innocent man, but I do hope that if there is solid evidence of genuine credibility to be found to prove his innocence, that it happen before he has lost any more of his life at MSP. If Barry Beach is an innocent man…then the person(s) responsible for taking Kimberly Nees’ life also took his.
Last comment…it is a shame that in all of this controversy, almost everyone has lost sight of the confirmed victims…Kim Nees’ and her family.
I won’t be checking back to see how many of you feel compelled to flame my comments as this is truly my objective viewpoint. So don’t bother. If you want to argue the points I raised than do it in a constructive way by helping Mr. Beach find a way to put these questions to rest publicly somehow.
Thirty years I commend your service to your community. In thirty years have you or anyone you know in law enforcement ever mishandled evidence for lack of training etc? Well that kinda thing happens. But a deliberate act of destroying or removing evidence from a evidence room would not that be a felony in the State of Montana?. How do you explain this as a law officer. I would suspect that a a large majority of law enforcement wouldn’t do that but someone did and nothing has been done about that? Barry’s case should have been thrown out of court. A honest judge and DA would have done the right thing. If evidence of him being at the scene of the crime was there… From what I can see nothing puts him there but a coerced confession years later. I pray it was thirty years of honest police work.
Dwiddle Dweebe:
You may have the weirdest name, but at least you make sense.
…AND ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
Including Barry Beach
YOUR COMMENTS IN SMALL CAPS, MINE IN ALL CAPS. LETS GO.
You say, Beach’s supporters are so naiive that it’s pathetic. I pity you, in a way, as you’ve been led down a road by a modestly skilled attorney looking for a step up on a lackluster career ladder.
I TAKE EXCEPTION TO YOUR NOTION THAT I HAVE BEEN LED DOWN ANY PATH. YOU DO SEE IN OTHERS, AS YOU DO SEE IN YOUR SELF. LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND I THINK YOU WILL SEE A PATHETIC, NAIVE PERSON, THAT HAS BEEN LED DOWN A ROAD BY A VERY MODESTLY SKILLED ATTORNEY. GENERALLY THESE MODESTLY SKILLED ATTORNEYS WORK FOR THE STATE, COUNTY OR CITY GOVERNMENT. AGAIN, LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND YOU WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING ONESELF. LET US CONTINUE
I’ve been a law enforcement officer for thirty years. That said, I don’t have a predisposition to “throw them all in jail.” I can, however, tell you that everyone serving a life sentence in MSP claims to be innocent. Everyone on death row was wrongly convitcted. Just ask any inmate. Sure, there have been, and are, inmates who are innocent. Beach, howvever, is certainly not one of them, based upon evidence as that term is defines by law.
I TO, SERVE IN EMERGENCY SERVICES. MOST LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT I KNOW, AND I KNOW MANY, AND WORK WITH THEM DAILY, BELIEVE AND KNOW THAT BARRY IS INNOCENT. THIS INCLUDING GUARDS AT THE MSP. MOST TELL ME, WHEN THEY KNOW THAT I CAN BE TRUSTED, (THEY PROBABLY KNOW THAT THEY CAN’T TRUST YOU), WILL ASK HOW THEY CAN HELP. MOST SAY, JUST DON’T USE MY NAME, AS I AM AFRAID OF GETTING FIRED. I HAVE MANY FRIEND INVOLVED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT INCLUDING RELATIVES AND IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
YOU SAY, Sure, there have been, and are, inmates who are innocent. REALLY, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS? THEN GO TO CASE DETAILS AND STUDY THE FACTS, THIS IS ONE OF THEM THAT IS INNOCENT, NOW WHAT. IF IT WAS YOU, WOULD YOU WANT SOMEONE TO SAY SO, OR SHOULD WE JUST LET YOU ROT, WOW, NOW I GOT YOUR ATTENTION.
YOU SAY, everyone serving a life sentence in MSP claims to be innocent. Everyone on death row was wrongly convicted. Just ask any inmate. THIS IS NOT TRUE, I HAVE BEEN TO AND VISITED WITH PROBABLY MORE INMATES THEN YOU WOULD EVER KNOW. WHEN YOU SAY “EVERYONE,” IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT BEING TRUTHFUL OR HAVE NOT VISITED INMATES, AS SOME WILL SAY THEY ARE INNOCENT, CERTAINLY NOT “EVERYONE” WILL, AS YOU SAY. I WOULD SAY ROUGHLY HALF. YOU ARE PROBABLY HALF PREGNANT.
Barry just got tired of MSP. Although he claims that his confession was coerced, he waited all this time to complain. Anyone granted a new trial after years have elapsed can expect a better outcome; not for society, but for himself.
YOU ARE SO WRONG ABOVE. THIS MAN, BARRY BEACH. HAS NOT JUST CLAIMED THIS. HE HAS PROCLAIMED HIS INNOCENTS FROM THE DAY HE WENT TO PRISON. IT IS DOCUMENTED UNDER CASE DETAILS. PLEASE STUDY THE CASE AND GET THE FACTS BEFORE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK FOOLISH. AGAIN, IT IS UNDER CASE DETAILS.
Of course, Barry found Jesus, as did so many folks who are on this bandwagon. Folks who believe in Jesus are the ones most easily led, as they are “followers,” per se. The fact of the matter is that you don’t have the kind of scientific evidence here that mandates a new trial.
THE JESUS COMMENTS, I WILL LEAVE ALONE. YOU SHOULD FEEL ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. I WILL LET GOD DEAL WITH THIS ONE. YOU SHOULD GET TO KNOW JESUS, THEN YOUR HEART MIGHT NOT BE SO HARD.
NEXT…..
DO YOU KNOW WHY WE DON’T HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, AS I NOW KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE NOT STUDIED MUCH ON THIS CASE.
THE STATE KEEPS LOOSING IMPORTANT EVIDENCE. STARTING FROM THE TOP. ONE OF YOUR ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES BROKE INTO THE EVIDENCE ROOM WHO KNOWS WHAT EVIDENCE WAS LOST THERE. THEN THE STATE HAS LOST
1. KIM NEES PURSE, WHICH HAD BLOODY FINGERPRINTS ON THEM. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (DNA).
2. CONTENTS OF THE ASHTRAY FROM PICKUP TRUCK, WITH 11 CIGARETTE BUTS. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (DNA).
3. KIM NEES SWEATER WITH HAIR ON IT. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (DNA).
4. THEY LOST ALL OF KIM’S CLOTHING WITH HAIR AND BLOOD SAMPLES. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (DNA).
5. THEY LOST THE ALLEGED PUBIC HAIR. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (DNA).
6. THE STATE HAS LOST SOME OF THE FINGERPRINTS. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (DNA).
7. THEY HAVE LOST ALL OF THE BEER CANS THAT LITTERED THE CRIME SCENE FROM INSIDE THE VEHICLE AND OUTSIDE THE VEHICLE. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE (DNA).
8. I AM SURE THERE IS MORE.
THE STATE HAS THE BLOODY PALMPRINT AND THE REMAINING FINGERPRINTS. LETS HOPE THAT THEY CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE LITTLE THAT THEY HAVE REMAINING.
AND YOU SAY, SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, GIVE ME A BREAK. THIS IS NOT BARRY’S JOB TO PRESERVE THIS. IT IS YOURS, LAW ENFORCEMENT.
The courts will deny all of the appeals. Wanna bet? Oh, maybe Jesus can add a post to the blog and enlighten us.
THE COURTS MAY DENY ALL OF THIS, SO WHAT. RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG. WE ARE GROWING IN NUMBERS MY FRIEND, LARGE THEN YOU MAY GUESS, AND WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP. AND ONE MORE THING. JESUS DOES LOVE YOU. GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND.
SIGNED DWIDDLE DWEEBE
No sense here in defaming MT Law officers, #72. They are mostly honorable and courageous. Good men and women dedicated to upholding the law. Yes there are corrupt ones, a few in Poplar, but they are few, the good ones deserve our thanks. Thank you to our honorable, honest law enforcement officers!
Mr. 30 Years In Law Enforcement:
Is your name Steve Grayhawk? Did you break into the evidence room to cover up your daughter’s murderous act? Or maybe you are Arnold Melnikoff who has fabricated the results of evidence he has studied. Or maybe someone else. It does not matter. You are a narrow-minded ignorant person. You claim that some in prison are innocent, yet you do nothing to change that. You claim Barry Beach is guilty, yet you provide not one shred of evidence to show it. You do not address even one of the hundreds of points that this website has raised showing Barry Beach’s innocence. The people who created this website came out with all the evidence. All the information. The whole truth. Then said “This is what we deduce from all of this. Make up your own mind.” You come on here and insult anyone who holds religious values (which is 95% or more of the entire world), insults everyone’s intelligence and shows exactly what kind of back-woods, hillbilly, jacka** you are. May God have mercy on both our souls.
You were in law enforcement for 30 years? As what? A secuity guard at a retirement home? Whatever Barney Fife. You are uninformed and therefore a fraud, you obviously haven’t read the facts of the case provided here. All you offer is insults based in ignorance, and you’re obviously “a smarter than God” Jesus hater. I hope He fogives you the day you die and stand before His throne.
The commercials for the Dateline show are airing on national TV. It will air Friday night. The whole country will know how corrupt the Montana legal system is.
Mr. Thiry Years in Law Enforcement,
You must be a Montana Law Enforcement Officer. Maybe you should seek some out-of-state training. There is no evidence against Beach. If you think there is, please expose it to the rest of us.
>based upon evidence as that term is defines by law.
What evidence might that be?
Question for Mr. Thirty Years In Law Enforcement. Why the apparent lack of interest in finding out who the bloody hand print belongs to? Wouldn’t you be just a little curious if it were your case?
Beach’s supporters are so naiive that it’s pathetic. I pity you, in a way, as you’ve been led down a road by a modestly skilled attorney looking for a step up on a lackluster career ladder.
I’ve been a law enforcement officer for thirty years. That said, I don’t have a predisposition to “throw them all in jail.” I can, however, tell you that everyone serving a life sentence in MSP claims to be innocent. Everyone on death row was wrongly convitcted. Just ask any inmate. Sure, there have been, and are, inmates who are innocent. Beach, howvever, is certainly not one of them, based upon evidence as that term is defines by law.
Barry just got tired of MSP. Although he claims that his confession was coerced, he waited all this time to complain. Anyone granted a new trial after years have elapsed can expect a better outcome; not for society, but for himself.
Of course, Barry found Jesus, as did so many folks who are on this bandwagon. Folks who believe in Jesus are the ones most easily led, as they are “followers,” per se. The fact of the matter is that you don’t have the kind of scientific evidence here that mandates a new trial. The courts will deny all of the appeals. Wanna bet? Oh, maybe Jesus can add a post to the blog and enlighten us.
Remember when Judge Cybulski’s wife got away with driving drunk on the wrong side of the interstate for 90 miles all the while being chased by the police. Everyone turned a blind eye to that also. I don’t see him getting back in. Have a backbone man. Roosevelt is pooly represented.
Wow. I just read Judge Cybulski’s denial for new trial. It was extremely short and without any reasoning explaining his decision. I then read the information posted by the law professor in #67:
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/evidenceprof/2008/04/lifes-a-beach-b.html
Why is it that someone brandnew to the facts of the case and without any personal stake takes the time to give a well reasoned analysis and the judge getting paid to make decisions can’t write more than two poorly reasoned paragraphs hastily penned to beat the response from Mr Beach’s Attorney? Judge Cybulski seems to fit well up there with the rest of the Poplar Third World Justice System.
I just learned about this case and have posted an entry about it on my blog:
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/evidenceprof/2008/04/lifes-a-beach-b.html
I plan on following this case and making additional posts.
Another miscarriage of justice in the long line of disappointing decisions made by our elected officials. At what point does this become a case of right vs wrong and no longer a case of political self-preservation? There is no way to give a man back 25 years of his life but the least they could do is let Beach start a life at this stage of the game. Fear of retribution for taking a man’s freedom as well as the failure to admit fault and mistake should not be a motivator for keeping him locked up when he is innocent. Take a good look Montana. As a taxpayer, I wouldn’t want a person with that lack of moral conscience on my “payroll”.
Judge Cybulski is not fit to be a Judge…he made a ruling on my case several years ago on jurisdicational matters and the supreme court overruled it. This isn’t over! Have HOPE!
Just remember, this isn’t over. There is still an appeal to the Montana Supreme Court, Federal Court, Federal Appeals Court and the United States Supreme Court. This one is coming back. I think Judge Cybulski (or whatever his name is) made several serious errors in his ruling. The upper courts will never uphold his ruling.
Yeah, I see the judge denied the petition. Did you read the denial??? It is crazy. First of all, the judge made a ruling without even getting Centurion’s response to the AG. I think that makes it a biased decision because he didn’t get both sides of the story. Second, this judge must be out of his mind! He says that just because the AG’s office has ‘thoughoughly reviewed the evidence and again interviewed witnesses’ and since the AG’s office did not seem convinced of Beach’s innocence, that he must deny the petition. What planet did this judge come from? Ever heard of a corrupt lawyer? Where do we get all the lawyer jokes? Just because a prosecutor (AG) SHOULD seek justice and not simply convictions, does not mean they do! Basically, he is saying that since the AG is good with it, so is he. What a justice system!
An Angry Beach Bum
Judge Cybulski denied the petition for a new trial for Barry Beach.
Now what?
The Datelaine NBC 2-hour special will air this Friday, April 4, 2008 at 8pm MDT. Please don’t miss this national coverage of terrible injustice in our own state.
Just wanted to point out that the reason the Louisiana detectives had to admit to two of the confessions they garnered as being false is because Beach was out of the country overseas in the Navy on a ship fighting for the freedom of his country for one of the murders and out of the state of Louisiana during the other so they had to admit that those two “confessions” were false yet they won’t admit to the one regarding Nees as being false as well???
Well, since Centurion Ministries has not yet filed their response to the State, a ruling would just about be impossible at this point.
The word around the old courthouse is that the Judge ruled in favor of the State and denied Beach’s motion for post conviction relief.
Montanans For Justice will make every attempt to confirm the information about the Dateline NBC special and its airing date. We do not have enough information at this point to confirm or deny the airing of the show on April 4th, 2008, but will post the information on the website as soon as it is available. Please check back to the Latest News page and the blog regularly for the most up-to-date information. Thank you.
Here is the web link showing the April 4th date for the show:
https://www3.tivo.com/tivo-tco/program/show.do;
or Google search for Upcoming Programs on Dateline NBC Poplar Montana
From their scheduling web site. Search for upcoming programs.
Where did you get this news about the April 4 date for Dateline show? I want to verify?
Thanks
It looks like the Dateline show will air on Friday, April 4.
AG,
It is your job to convict ALL parties involved in a crime. Evidence shows more than ONE PERSON at the crime scene. Why is only one in prison?
PS: Barry is innocent so it looks like you need to find the other THREE that were involved.
AG Mike McGrath:
Does the Barry Beach case scare you? If you think he is as guilty as you keep claiming he is, then let’s have another trial. You put up all your evidence. If he is as guilty as you say, you will have no problem getting a conviction, will you? So, what are you scared of? Maybe in the deep of your heart, you know he is innocent. Quit hiding from the voting citizens of Montana and answer the real questions. Otherwise, how could we trust you leading the Supreme Court? Would you like my vote? My friends? My family? You will get none of them if you keep this up. Obviously, there are a lot of other people in Montana that feel the same way by the looks of this website. Are you willing to sacrifice your political career to keep an innocent man in prison and murderers on the streets? Your move.
I visited Barry today and he is well. Sends everyone his best. Isn’t it strange that the board of pardons & parole decides to parole William David Faught, whos’ crime overshadows Barrys’ by miles one month after Barry is turned down. Isn’t that pretty close to putting my Lord and Savior up before the public and saying, ” Which do you choose; Jesus or Barabas “? The timing and the delay in his hearing are too hoakey for me. Keep thinking and praying for him. The longer this goes on, the more support Barry gains.
The link is not a notification of a move, but a link that you can click if you wish to be notified of any status changes for the inmate. As far as I can see, Barry is not being moved anywhere…at least not according to the Con website.
under barrys name in the prison record is a link they put there when a move is in the works? what gives?
Wow! Check out the preview for the Dateline show. They have a link under “Latest News” and on the NBC icon on each page.
You are just plain nuts, you say “because never has a TV show gotten anyone off for murdering someone.” No one here is trying to get someone off for murdering someone. YOU JUST DON’T SEEM TO GET IT. No one is trying to get a murder set free. (I will go real slow for you.) B A R R Y, D I D N O T D O T H E C R I M E H E I S N O T A M U R D E R E R. If you think he did show any one of us, just one SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE.
You are all talk and no action, C’mon, I dare you, ONE SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE, other then a confession, which by the way, they erased the tapes to.
NEXT, you say no one else is involved. (Again, I will go real slow for you.) B L O O D Y P A L M P R I N T, N O T, B A R R Y ‘ S N O T K I M ‘ S obviously someone else is involved. There are numerous other things to show more then one person involved.
Go to montanansforjustice.com and maybe you will learn something about this case other then what you have learned reading the stalls in the restroom. You are a joke chump, now just go away. WOW, WHY DID I WASTE MY TIME ON YOU.
DWIDLE DWEBE
no one else has anything to worry about because never has a tv show gotten anyone off for murdering someone. no one else is involved and anyone with any sense knows that.
I think that once Dateline does their show, it is going to show that Barry Beach is very close to obtaining freedom. The responsible parties in the Kim Nees murder are going to know this too. How many times have we seen this situation in our judicial system. The first one to come forward with information almost always gets a lighter sentence. Everyone else that follows gets the hammer. They are in a game of 5 card stud and about to get the fifth card. Do you fold and keep something to play with later, or keep betting on luck and lose everything. With the stakes in this game, I’d be singing like a canary…if it were me.
If the State of Montana would have came clean years ago and handled this case the way the law says they should have, the taxpayers money wouldn’t have been wasted. The taxpayers in Montana should be screaming about the wages they pay the people they elect. Do you like the fact that your tax dollars are being spent to support corruption?
How about we send you to prison for life for a crime you didn’t commit. Then let’s see if you want us to give it up and not waste money.
a jury found him guilty!!! he has already been proven guilty time after time after time and he’s still wasting tax payers money. the atty’s from the ag’s office and the time they’ve wasted on this nonsense is mindboggling. give it up people.
this sounds like it is a political debate more than a fight to find out who is guilty of the murder i hope the truth of what happened that sad evening or morning to kim and all this ends so the family and friends of kim can be at peace so lets air this date line program on all stations nbc,cbs,abc,ect.let all of USA decide then put judgement on who that was at fault be it barry,others,law enforcement or government.
Perhaps this topic will force the state of Montana to examine the justice system. Justice in the rural communities seeks to passify the victims and let fear rule the decision making process. A man can be sent to prison because their are limited resources in small communities to facilitate cognitive and behavioral changes. From my observation, Montana could benefit from examing their sentencing guidelines. It is my hope that bringing this topic to the national will inspire Montana to improve the system for which the taxpayers bear the brunt of supporting, not to mention the toll it takes on family members financially and emotionally.
Much of the conversation above has degenerated to name calling. Sure there are a lot of dopers reading this blog but that is irrelevant. Doing the right thing or the wrong thing for that matter happens in both political parties. Anyones education level has nothing to do with the truth of this case. If you cannot provide a single fact to support your contention that Barry Beach is guilty then I suppose name calling is all you are capable of. I myself also vote Republican but can still recognize injustice from one of my own (Racicot). Please reach down deep for some modicum of maturity and try to raise the level of debate. I do understand your frustration. You want Barry to be guilty but it appears the facts do not support that. From here out I challenge anyone who writes he is guilty to provide one fact supporting that besides his tainted confession to three murders given to detectives who admit at least two were given falsely.
You are being singled out by a man who has a college degree, never smoked a pipe, is a member of the Republican party, Caucasian, not a zealot, used to be friends with Marc Racicot and went to Church with him, know a lot about this crime and knows that Barry Beach is innocent. Dateline NBC is running the story not at the request of anybody in Montana, but because they feel it is a newsworthy story. You can blame them for proving you wrong, but I suggest you get some knowledge of what you are speaking about before you make a fool of yourself anymore.
why should the gop worry. the right guy is in jail for the crime he committed and racicot did a good job in putting him there.
nbc is my favorite network. i wasn’t referring to them being dimwits, dopers and zealots. it was the extended family of beach and centurian ministies that i was referring to. nbc has no role other than to try to make money. bucking the powerful republican party isn’t going to get them there. i also think it’s kind of funny being singled out for bad spelling by a bunch who only has 1 or 2 high school diploma’s in their whole extended family.
Trivia:
How many corrupt government officals does it take to send an innocent man to jail?
Maybe someone should ask the Republican Party if they endorse keeping murderers free while the innocent remain in prison?
-A Beach Bum
Oh so the Republican PArty has plans for Raciot? THen they know all about Barry’s innocence and dont mind helping to put a political foot on an innocent mans’ neck.
To 30: I’m sure Dateline NBC would get a kick out of someone who can’t type or spell calling them “dimwits, dopers and zealots”. Do you know what those words mean or did you have to go to the public library to look them up? In my opinion, I don’t think the news media cares what the GOP thinks when it comes to corruption. The truth will be told.
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY THINK THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WOULD ALLOW A BUNCH OF DIMWITS, DOPERS AND ZEALOTS GO ON NATIONAL TV AND BASH MARC RACICOT. DON’T YOU REALIZE THAT HE IS PRETTY HIGH UP IN THEIR FUTURE PLANS. LIKE CENTURIAN HAS MORE POWER THAN BUSH-PUT DOWN THE PIPE AND GET A LIFE
Come clean about what? That he didn’t kill Kim Nees? He already did that. The evidence proves it. Unless you want to come forward with some evidence that we have not heard yet…? I would change my opinion right now if you can show me one shred of evidence implicating Barry Beach. Oh, and a coerced confession does not count as evidence. I double dog dare you. Just one piece of real evidence. If you can’t, then shut up and go sulk in your corner like the petulant child you are.
If Barry wants freedom he will have to come clean with him self, the people and God, then he will be free.
This man is innocent; let him go! It appears that law enforcement (Don Carpenter, sheriff of Roosevelt County) did not turn over evidence to the defense regarding eye witness testimony about the killers. Why?
Ah. If you really thought this was “done”, I doubt you would be wasting your time with this site. You my freind are scared that it’s not done.
That is the beauty of our justice system. When the innocent are wrongfully convicted, they do have a chance of being set free. It is not over. FREE BARRY BEACH!
He is already convicted, its done.
Well, it turns out that both of you are wrong. Dateline NBC found a story that would be better matched against the NCAA tournament on their competitor’s broadcast. Dateline chose to hold off on the revealing of this case for rating purposes only. The story is complete and they were ready to air it on Friday. It will be aired soon and the truth will be told: There is no evidence to convict Barry Beach.
How about some pretty powerful people pulling some strings???
It was probably postponed because they wanted to hear the states side of the story too.
Does anybody know why they postponed it?
That really sucks that they postponed the Dateline show. I was really looking forward to seeing that. Hope they get it back on soon.
We the people of the State of Montana and the United States of America elected these officials to serve and protect us, not their own interests. I believe it is time that they know this. If our government officals don’t want to do what is right (freeing an innocent man and getting murderers off the streets), then we do not need to re-elect them to office. Let us not support politicians who only serve their own interests. That is not what our country was founded on and that is not how Montanans live.
I am sure alot of people are going to be squirming come next Friday. You know what is really sad, the government can and will do whatever they choose to keep their “SUPERIOR” status, because that makes them big people, and we the peons are all here going back and forth about the truth and they sit in their plush little offices with furniture MADE by Barry Beach, and they watch us..
Marc Rasciot will one day have to PAY for ALL the BS he has handed down, all the drugs he has had carted into our state, and all the lies he has told to get where he is,,,
Brian Schweitzer is our Governor, who we all believed in and now,,, he too, is hiding in his office and allowing this to happen in HIS STATE??
I really thought he of all people would not allow this to happen and for him to “rubber stamp” this instead of acting on it,.,.he has the power and if he says he doesn’t then he should darn well find someone who does..
Hey, M.W. Ive got to give you your props. You do have a confession that keeps Barry in jail. You have to hang your hat on on it because as you well know there is NO evidence or even a witness who saw him out the night of the murder. In your world there is no such thing as a false confession or wrongful imprisonment, despite Jimmy Baumgartner.In the back of your mind though you wonder if your wrong, but you cant let yourself admit that thought. You have got to be dreading next Friday and the attention this will focus on you. In the mean time you’ve got to keep on saying “well he confessed”. It’s all you got.
I would sure trust Mr. Kidd over the AG’s office. What does Mr. Kidd have to gain by lying? We know the AG loses face as well as our old buddy Racicot.
so who do you trust? Mr Kidd,remember he is a lawyer and they never lie do they? maybe just twist the truth a little.
You say,
“There is a confession that has been upheld by the courts time and time again.”
So what, that doesn’t mean they don’t make mistakes. Example, the supreme court would not even hear Barry’s case. Why? It is short and simple, they said that he confessed to this crime to the detectives and even to his attorney, Mr. Kidd.
(Go to montanansforjustice.com, then go to case details, then go to Click below to be your own investigator, the documents are there)
Here is the problem though. They didn’t contact Mr. Kidd. They just took the word of the Attorney Generals office. (The government wouldn’t lie to us, would they? I am from the government I am here to help you?) If you believe any of that you are truly nieve.
Anyway, so then someone get ahold of Kidd and guess what? He says he never said that. NEVER NEVER. But the courts (supreme one), as you say, won’t here this again, they say case closed. I think we need an uprising in this country. It started once, after the Ruby Ridge deal, and the Waco deal, then the Freeman deal (who the Gov.’s uncle was involved with).
We probably need to wake up and smell the roses. They are not here to help us, it is the government. I don’t trust them and I never will.
You say the courts have upheld this, what a joke. You probably work for the government, I will lay odds on it.
There is a confession that has been upheld by the courts time and time again.
Wow, Eddie V. I have had that thought. Hmmmmm
Eddie V. I’d talk now. These girls will sell you down the river in a heart beat. Once dateline airs next Friday the time for talk will be over if not before then
Maybe they are there with the feds to make some arrests?
I heard Dateline is in Poplar today. I hope they make something break on this case.
It will be on at 8pm MDT. This has been a confirmed time with the exception of a major national event (war, assassination, outbreak, etc.) We will keep you updated with information as we receive it.
Number 4:
There are two hours between MST and EST. But now it’s Daylight time. So…What time will it be on? 7 or 8 MDT or 9 or 10 EDT
Great Blog!!
Some of Montana’s dirty secrets on national TV. I never thought I’d live to see the day.
At this point, we do not have the answers to these questions. As soon as we know, we will post an answer. So far, all we have been told is it will air at 8-10pm MST and 9-11 EST. Please check back later this week and we hope to have more information.
Will the video be down loadable on this site or where can I get it if I miss it?
Is this the correct time if you have Directv?
Nearly 2000 years ago, a man was falsely convicted and made a sacrificial lamb for corrupt political beings. Today, we have an innocent man condemned to die in a prison cell by corrupt political beings. Isn’t it ironic that the dateline show should air on the same day, almost 2000 years later, as the day He was sent to the cross? Almost poetic.