Friday, May 02, 2008

The New Justice For All

We have had ups and downs in this blog and Montanans For Justice feels that now would be a good time to make a clean start. With over 1000 comments between 6 posts, there has been plenty of attention. Maybe it would help to have only one post...? Let's try this for awhile. If you would like to comment from another post, please refrence that post when you comment here. Let us together find justice for Barry Beach and for all Montanans.
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1 - Montanans For Justice has received confirmation from the Montana State Prison that Barry Beach has had his disciplinary hearing, was given a sentence of 10 days in the hole, will be out on May 3, 2008 (tomorrow) and will be placed on the high-side for a period of 3 years. All of this appears to be routine proceedure for MSP and we are sure that everyone (as we are) will be greatful to have Barry out of the hole tomorrow. MFJ (Comment this)

Written by: Montanans for Justice at 2008/05/02 - 16:45:22
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2 - GET YOUR T-SHIRTS AND COPIES OF THE COMMERCIAL FREE DATELINE NBC SPECIAL "THE KILLING AT THE POPLAR RIVER" DVD ON THE WEBSITE UNDER "LATEST NEWS". (Comment this)

Written by: Montanans for Justice at 2008/05/02 - 16:48:33
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3 - Montana Capitol Rally!!!

May 10, 2008

2:00 - 3:00 PM

Capitol Steps, Helena, MT

Everyone is welcome. Come if you can!

T-shirts and DVD's will be available at the rally! (Comment this)

Written by: Montanans for Justice at 2008/05/02 - 16:50:51
4 - Montanans for Justice, why was Barry put through a disciplinary hearing? What does it mean 3 years on the high side? Everybody keep sending those letters! Barry needs our help and prayers! (Comment this)

Written by: Laura at 2008/05/02 - 18:36:05
5 - Any time there is any type of fight, rule violation of any kind, there is a "write up" given. The next step is to have a disiplinary hearing with a hearing officer at the prison, and they have a hearing with the inmate to determine what they feel the consequences are, there are points given when an inmate enters the prison depending on the crime.. and when they get a violation of any kind, points are given.. because Barry is in prison on Deliberate Homocide he has HIGH points anyway,., he had to earn his place on low side by having no write ups.. so when he had this hearing and fighting carries alot of points,,, then they send him back to the high side where he loses alot of what he had earned as far as priveledges, etc... The high side is higher security and less priviledges.. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/02 - 19:55:11
6 - Keep writing letters to as many folks as you can think of. Nobody should be exempt when sending a letter, even if you think it's far fetched! Keep sending Barry letters, as he needs to know that we continue to fight for him. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/03 - 07:12:32
7 - That's right! Keep sending those letters! I am still unclear as to why Barry had a disciplinary hearing...it appears that there was a fight? Do you have any more info MFJ or is it being kept on the "DL"...thanks for everything that you are doing! Barry needs our support more than ever, it sounds like to me. I will be with you all in spirit on May 10th! (Comment this)

Written by: Laura at 2008/05/03 - 09:21:20
8 - Laura,yes Barry was in a fight last week. He had to have a hearing. He is more upset with himself than anything. He bumped in to the wrong person at the wrong time and that stuff happens. So a disciplinary hearing was held and he should be getting out of the "hole" today hopefully. He feels he let his supporters down more than anything. yes he most certainly needs our continued support. Keep writing letters to anyone you can think of! Write a letter to Barry as well. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/03 - 17:09:00
9 - Thanks for clearing up my ?s and I do know what you mean about these things happen. Barry still has my unending support and my letters are still going out each week. I will be praying for him and MFJ members! (Comment this)

Written by: Laura at 2008/05/03 - 13:10:23
10 - It's only fair to mention that the other guy in the fight also got sent to the hole and also had a disciplinary hearing. Anytime there is a fight among inmates at MSP, if both are still standing, they both get punished no matter who started it. In prison, you may not start fights but if you don't fight back you will be abused. Given Barry's behavior over the last 25 years, there is no doubt in my mind that the other guy swung first. Barry had no choice but to swing back. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/03 - 19:41:35
11 - Does anyone know whom the Jurors where back in the year of his trial, I think 1982?
It would be interesting, if they were alive, and we could find their names, to see if they would convict Barry on the evidence they were presented. Can anyone post that information here?
Thanks
Dwiddle Dweebe (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/03 - 20:13:24
12 - I agree that the original jurors would be an interesting interview. Keep those ideas coming and sending those letters! Barry appreciates our support too so give him your hellos and keep him in your prayers! Thanks MFJ! (Comment this)

Written by: Laura at 2008/05/03 - 21:29:48
13 - Dwidle,
many of the jurors are still alive and Centurion has spoken to a couple of them.. What was the outcome? They belived barry was guilty back then based on the cops stating he admitted to his attorney and gave a confession to his attorney,, they also were very moved by the "role playing' of the confession by jay via and mahlum..
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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/04 - 09:16:20
14 - Would they convict today with new evidence and testimoney
like from his sister who wasn't allowed to the first time. I wonder what they felt and thought if they saw the
Dateline show and this website. Sounds like his first attorney and the judge and Racicot didn't do very good job
Anything about jury tampering or jurors being biased ever
come up? Racicot told jurors stuff he shouldn't have
so what would stop him from other crooked actions. All angles on this case need to be reviewed. So let the jurors respond on this website? (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 02:09:20
15 - re jurors: Comment from Rich Hepburn.
Early in the investigation I found four jurors willing to talk to me. My interviews with them were non-confrontational, and I assured them that I would respect their privacy and anonymity. I wanted to find out from them what they heard, what stuck, and what influenced them. In my opinion, no purpose would be served by finding them and running new information by them. Unless one or more of them voluntarily come forward, I urge that they be left alone.
Shortly before Barry's hearing last summer, I came accross a fifth juror that I hadn't found earlier. She wept at the possibility that she might have made a mistake. I explained to her that Barry Beach was run over by a train. The conductor was Mahlum and the engineer Racicot and the jurors were mere passengers.The original jurors are not responsible for Barrry's predicament and should be left alone. Someday, perhaps, we'll get a chance to go before another jury and we will be prepared.

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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 02:19:58
16 - How utterly sad! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 02:55:01
17 - I agree with #15 - the first jury is not responsible, they went with what was provided to them at that time. It is unfortunate however that Racicot being the snake he is was able to mislead the jurrors in to believing that Barry confessed in front of his attorney. When that was not the case. EVEN ifff the judge told them to disregard it, Racicot planted a seed that should have caused the whole thing to be dismissed. Centurion is and has been doing a great job, but one would think they could put more pressure on some of the folks in Poplar. They know a whole lot more than what is being said. Some of these folks do not live in Poplar anymore and the pressure should be put on them to talk. In todays technology there would be several ways to go about this. Any thoughts? (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 03:20:41
18 - MFJ: I don't understand why they couldn't MAKE authorities straighten out who the palm print belonged to??? How can this be a secret, and why can't someone insist it's tested? Is it still available??
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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 10:49:12
19 - *Two things I don't understand. Why would Barry's Step Mom purposely get him in trouble? Is his Father still married to her? And why did everyone, including Barry say nobody saw him in bed that night, but then his sister came forward much later and said she saw him. Just
curious.
FREE BARRY (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 10:55:32
20 - Please go to the CNN website...

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/confirmation/generic.html

Under "CONTACT US" - are links to send emails. Also there are two links under each one of those. One is for "tips" and the other is for "Stories" - please send emails to both of them.

I have informed them of the Rally on Saturday - maybe we can get CNN to report. Also ask them to do a story on Barry.

I have sent out several emails today.

This is the week folks.... building up to the rally. Notify your newspapers, television stations, magazines, local reporters of any kind, national broadcasters, celebrities, nobody should be exempt no matter how far fetch you think they are. We need attention for Barry! We need more publicity nationally.

If anyone has ideas, please share them. If anyone has email addresses to share please do so.

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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 16:42:42
21 - Here is a good one - Angelina Jolie announced her disgust in Politicians and the US Government. Contact her as well.

Angelina Jole
c/0 Geyer Kosinski
955 South Carrillo Drive
Suit 300
Los Angeles, CA 90048

also

Angelina Jolie's Manager:
Geyer Kosinski
Media Talent Group
9200 Sunset Boulevard
Suite 810
West Hollywood, CA 90069
Phone: 310-275-7900

 (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 16:45:23
22 - here's Ron Howard's information I found on the internet

Ron Howard's production company:
Imagine Entertainment
9465 Wilshire Boulevard
7th Floor
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
Phone: 310-858-2000
Email: r.howard(at)imagine-entertainment(dot)com

Maybe some big celeb will come on board. I think it's a great idea. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 16:46:44
23 - I think it would be nice to get a list started of people attending the rally. Also, where you are from. I will start.

Jimmy M.
Helena, MT (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 17:08:26
24 - Jeff K.
Helena, Mont (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 17:16:08
25 - Nightly@NBC.com - here's an email address for folks wishing to write. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 17:31:45
26 - O.k., I was in Helena last week. I got to read a Helena newspaper and in it I read some disturbing news to me. I can't remember the exact name, but it was free in the hotel I was staying in. It was on Tues. or Weds. that I read a small article about a murder in the 70's. This 5 year old girl was sexually assaulted and murdered, but the killer was never found. They now want to find the murderer basing this on the ability to use d.n.a. I am assuming this is by exhuming the body? I know in my own heart that I would want to do this if this is my child. I also know that it seems extremely tacky, if you would, or a horrible thing for the Nees family, to even consider asking if this sort of thing would be possible. It was said somewhere that she fought back and tried hard to get away. I would think that under nails there might be d.n.a? Since in that article it mentions that d.n.a is extremely durable, not their words exactly, but what I can remember that it meant. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 18:07:26
27 - #26 - funny that you mentioned this, because I have thought the same thing. The report said though that the nails were clean, however since the Forensic specialist was fired for misconduct, it is possible that more corruption lies in the lab as well. It could be possible that the there IS something under those nails! I think that the right folks could get a court order exhuming the body. However before doing something so drastic, it would be nice if ALL the folks who gave finger and palm prints were tested against the bloody palm print. I believe some gave samples, but there are those that did not, and those that have not been tested or compared. This might be a much easier routte first to eliminate that first. As a last effort I would agree and a court order might be obtained to exhuming the body. Your right if this was MY chld or sister - I would most certainly want to know who was responsbile for this. To simply put a man in prison and then THINK and believe that they have the right person, would not give me a peace of mind, if there was "resonable doubt" that it was done by someone elese. As is in this case - there is considerable amount of doubt ! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 18:18:03
28 - Any comments to #18 or 19? (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 18:57:41
29 - I googled TImer Moses to see what I could read about him. It would start with things like "well known criminal defense attorney" and "prominent Billings lawyer" "high profile". IT seems to me that "they" got to him too. Ya know, the corruption? It seemed like he did nothing to defend Barry. His sister did offer this at the time, she wasn't allowed to testify. He didn't call the analysist Melnikoff or let Barry testify at his own trial. Doesn't that seem odd? I mean this guy was discredited. He could have been here too if allowed to do so, so they could have used it against him. Maybe Moses was threatent too? (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 19:45:18
30 - I think that your questions are valid. What part has Timer Moses been playing in any of this since then? Has he offered to help Centurion at all? Was he present at the clemency hearing? (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 20:11:08
31 - Montanans for Justice, what is the update of Barry at this time? According to a past comment he was to be out on May 3rd, however he is still in the hole. What is going on? something does not seem right. I have heard quite a few concerns regarding Barry's welfare. Can you clarify any of this for us. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 20:14:41
32 - Here are some Montana TV Newscasters & Contacts.
Please send e-mail so they will cover the rally! bcummings@kulr.com
bob@kpax.com
comcal@nbcmontana.com
danette@maxmontana.com
enantz@kulr.com
feedback@montanapbs.org
ggunter@kfbb.com
glamotte@kulr.com
gray@maxmontana.com
jlundstad@kulr.com
jon@krtv.com
jstepanek@ktvq.com
kaernst@BeartoothNBC.com
cgrevenitz@BeartoothNBC.com
ddunwell@BeartoothNBC.com
gpace@BeartoothNBC.com
wpeel@BeartoothNBC.com
kajnews@kpax.com
krtvnews@krtv.com
kufm@montanapbs.org
kusm@montanapbs.org
kussin@kulr.com
kweber@kulr.com
lhopewell@kxlf.com
ljulius@maxmontana.com
matt@kbzk.com
maureen@maxmontana.com
mjarrett@kulr.com
mwallis@ktvq.com
news@keci.com
news@kpax.com
newsroom@kfbb.com
Newstips@kxlf.com
nlough@kulr.com
nszemerei@kulr.com
pcooney@kxlf.com
phofferber@ktvq.com
ppreston@kulr.com
roxie@krtv.com
tammy@kpax.com
tgazy@kbzk.com
Z7tips@kbzk.com (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 21:08:38
33 - Hi..I am a supporter from NE Ohio..(small little city south of Cleveland). (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 21:10:03
34 - http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/59765
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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/05 - 23:40:05
35 - well... if you guys think that barry is sooooo inocent, why dont you get him to take a lie detector test and get him to answer "yes" or "no" instead of "i might have" or "i could have"?... and to all you people, do you guys forget to talk to inmates that has heard barry beaches "war story"... and this is for you barry, i dont know if your pitchin or catchin... it dont matter, which one?...just get better at it... you will be there for awhile... chow (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 01:10:03
36 - oooooooooooo somebody is soooo negative!! #35 Barry did not kill Kim. Sissy and the others have been bragging that they are the ones who did it for years now. Where have you been? Why do you think Maude tried to have herself committed when the trial time rolled around. Who are you Sissy? Maude? Joanne? Eddy? (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 01:29:33
37 - , YOU SOUND LIKE SISSY.........BEEN THERE BEFORE HAVENT YA?!!! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 02:57:02
38 - #35 - I guess we'll all assume you won't be joining us in Helena this weekend! Everyone in Poplar and nationally now knows that Sissy and Maude and Joanne murdered Kim. Kim will follow them the rest of thier ever breathing days. Sissy's remark about getting to Heaven and hoping those ministry guys will apologize to her for accussing her of this horrible crime - well guess what - NONE of them are going to Heaven. They should enjoy thier time here on Earth along with Marc Racicot, because when thier day comes, their going DOWN! There is not one single ounce of physical evidence that puts him at the murder scene. There is not one DNA test that showed he committed this murder and there is not one single witness. HOWEVER there ARE witnesses that saw those women kill Kim Nees. I'd say that's worth a LOT more than a lie detector test. You OBVIOUSLY have something to hide yourself or you wouldn't be so quick to shoot your mouth off. Anyone who reads the evidence, anyone who saw Dateline, anyone who KNOWS Barry, KNOWS he did not do this. So entertain us some more with your lack of knowledge. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 03:22:48
39 - just remember everyone, that ONLY NBC and or dateline can do barry's story,, they have the exclusive on it...
nothing can be done as far as media (major tv) without their ok..
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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 04:58:46
40 - #39. Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't realize that it worked that way. I totally believe in Barry, but I want to know something that the above writer mentioned. Did he actually say he didn't remember killing Kim, or did they twist his words to make him sound like he could have? What do you make about the erased tape? Did Barry ever say what he thought was actually on it that they didn't want anyone to hear??? (I don't believe it was erased in error!) CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER???THANKS! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 11:35:15
41 - You need to go to the "case details" and you will find all your answers there. Quit being so demanding and read first! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 15:22:55
42 - Something to consider... Some folks are just now coming on board, either they never heard of this and have heard thru others that are making them aware, some may have just watched the Dateline show for the first time. Some may have just came across this website. So those of us who have been on this blog for a while now need to help these new folks get up to speed. We don't need to be making remarks like "quit being so demanding, read first" - Just simply redirecting to the other link would work and sounds much better. After all....we are ALL trying to help Barry, so let's stick together, not put a wedge between any of us. There are a LOT Of folks out there fighting for Barry. (very few like #35) Remember that! It's ok to contact those other television folks, let them decide if they want to contact Dateline to do a follow up or not. We just need to bring the awareness to them, they'll do the rest. So keep writing to everyone you can think of. Don't forget to write to Jon Tester and Max here in Montana!!! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 15:42:16
43 - Yes, #41! Nobody needs a smart alec. If you don't reference the number, how does someone know who you are talking to? If you told me to go to case details previously, I assure you I didn't know this pertained to me! Thank you #42; you are right..we are here to get information and to help Barry....Now, I will go to Case Details! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 15:57:25
44 - Okay...now can someone kindly direct me to Case Details????Thanks (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 16:01:22
45 - #44 - Case Details is a link on the left-hand side of the page where there is a red background, the letters are white and there is a handprint that marks which link you are on. Click on that link for Case Details. There you will find a page with lots of information, plus 7 more links for information relating to Case Details. Pay particular attention to the Case Documents, where you will find information such as the confession, the conversations between Jay Via (Louisianna Detective) and Dean Mahlum (Roosevelt County Sheriff's Dept.), Barry's transcribed statement contradicting the confession, all the FBI reports, the autopsy report, photographs and much, much more. Montanans For Justice has made everything available that is available so that people can make an informed decision about Barry's innocence.

I apologize for the person's comment #41. They had no reason to say what they did and most of us would be more than happy to help you. Just remember that we are not always on the computer at the same time you are. It sometimes may take awhile to get a response from people that know the answers. Thanks for being here and for your support.

- A Beach Bum (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 19:00:48
46 - First of all, what would a lie detector test do? Nothing. If you do not believe he is innocent by the overwhelming lack of evidence against him and the statements of many others, why would a lie detector test that can be faked or manipulated change your mind now?

Second, I believe you are one of the original investigators in this case that is trying to keep your reputation untarnished. Here is why I think that: The 'profile' that was given for the murderer in the Louisiana cases was that he had homosexual tendencies. The Louisiana detectives treated Barry like a homosexual during the interrogations because of that profiling. Barry has always liked girls, has never had any other homosexual accusations brought against him, was not the murderer in the Louisiana cases, and is not homosexual. So, if you bring up something about Barry being a homosexual, then you are probably one of the idiots that thinks he is still guilty of the Louisiana murders, even though he has been cleared by DNA evidence and they have found the real murderer.

Finally, get a life. The word is "Ciao", which is Italian for "Goodbye". But, I am sure you meant chow (like doggy-chow) because I know my dog is smarter than you are. Woof! (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 19:19:16
47 - Gossip is that Maude has sought legal advice admits she kicked Kim. Says others were there.

Truth or not? Does anyone know? (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 22:35:52
48 - Very interesting #47. Am sure everyone on Barry's behalf is hoping that this is true. Just one step closer to putting this case to rest for Barry and also the Nees family. (That is if it is true) Will keep checking these blogs to see if anything ever comes of this. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/06 - 22:44:02
49 - Thank you MOST KINDLY #45... I'm on my way!
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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/07 - 00:04:56
50 - Just checked out some of the case details. This is so sad. I have a 17 year old daughter and I can't imagine what this family has gone through. As far as Barry goes, there is just NO way he did this. NO WAY. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/07 - 02:38:16
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